Wellness isn’t just about mindfulness, exercise, or the right skin routine. Science, politics, media, culture, tech — everything around us — interact to shape our health. On America Dissected, Drs. Abdul El-Sayed and Katelyn Jetelina cuts into what really makes us sick — be it racism, corporate greed, or snake oil influencers — and what it'll take to heal it. From for-profit healthcare to ineffective sunscreens, America Dissected cuts deeper into the state of health in America. New episodes every Thursday. Want to know where to start? Here are some fan-favorite episodes to search: Cannabis Capitalism with David Jernigan; Weight Weight Don’t Tell me with Harriett Brown; Black Scientists Matter with Dr. Kizzmekia Corbett.
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To close out this season of the pod, Abdul and Katelyn record from the American Public Health Association’s annual convention. They discuss the current public health landscape, as the government shutdown threatens SNAP and WIC funding. Then, they are joined by Dr. Peter Marks, the former director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. They discuss the future of public health, and the road ahead.
America Dissected is taking an indefinite pause. We thank you for six amazing years.
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Put Up Or Shutdown (00:42:18)
In our penultimate episode, Abdul and Katelyn discuss the week’s public health news, which includes:
Why Democrats are demanding Republicans extend healthcare subsidies
How the shutdown has impacted funding to public health programs
The new childhood vaccination schedule
The CDC’s official approval of the Covid booster
Then they look back on the last 6 years, and play some of Abdul’s favorite moments from American Dissected.
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On The Ground In Gaza (01:07:21)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest news in public health, which includes:
Trump’s $100,000 H1-B visa fee, which is could significantly hurt staffing in rural hospitals
A new 100% tariff on certain imported brand-name drugs
RFK Jr’s announcement that the FDA is re-evaluating the abortion medication mifepristone
A new scientific breakthrough that’s giving hope to people with Huntington’s Disease
Then Abdul sits down with Dr. Aziz Rahman, an American physician who recently completed a medical mission in Gaza. Dr. Rahman offers a gripping account of the devastation in Gaza, and the heroic efforts of doctors serving there.
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Tylenol Needs A Tylenol (01:06:09)
Abdul begins the show with a major announcement about America Dissected. Then, he and Katelyn discuss:
RFK Jr’s Autism report, which points to an unproven link between autism and acetaminophen
Last week’s ACIP meeting, where RFK Jr’s new appointees approved new recommendations on the Covid booster and MMRV vaccines
The end of the Covid summer wave, and how it compared to last year
Then Abdul sits down with Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, who recently resigned in protest from the FDA. They discuss the chaos at the agency and the future of public health under RFK Jr.
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What Really Happened at the CDC (01:10:03)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the week in public health, which includes:
Former CDC Director Susan Monarez’s Senate testimony, where she revealed a series of bombshell revelations about the chaos in the department
This week's ACIP meeting, and how it might affect access to the Hepatitis B vaccine
The good news that private insurers will be covering the cost of vaccines as normal
The Trump Administration’s move to clamp down on pharmaceutical ads
Then Abdul sits down with Dr. Annette Campbell-Anderson, Deputy Director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Safe and Healthy Schools, to discuss why more schools across the country are implementing cell phone bans.
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About That MAHA Report… (01:03:52)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the week in public health, which includes:
RFK Jr’s MAHA Report, and why it fails to deliver meaningful change
The leaked report that revealed RFK Jr will tie Tylenol use to autism
The firing of CDC Director Susan Monarez, and the mass resignations that followed
RFK Jr’s Senate testimony, which included a grilling from top Republicans
Then Abdul talks to Natalie Foster, president of the Economic Security Project, about the power of guaranteed income in health outcomes.
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Exodus at the CDC (01:01:33)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss another inundating week in public health, which includes:
The sudden departure of the CDC Director, Susan Monarez, just weeks after her confirmation
The resignations of three other top leaders at HHS
FDA’s approval of the fall Covid booster, which limits the vaccine to seniors and people at high risk, as well as new alternative recommendations from major medical organizations
A Supreme Court ruling that puts a new legal wrinkle in the fight to restore NIH grants
The rise of radioactive shrimp and flying flesh-eating maggots
Then as we look ahead to Labor Day, Abdul sits down with Dr. Taylor Walker, the president of the largest labor union representing physicians. We are dark next week for the holiday.
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Public Health Punched Back (01:10:07)
Abdul and Katelyn are energized by the first meeting of the Vaccine Integrity Project, which was founded to serve as an alternative to RFK Jr’s ACIP. They also discuss:
A new letter to Congress, signed by more than 700 CDC employees, which calls HHS Secretary Kennedy complicit in endangering the nation's health and the recent shooting at the CDC headquarters
The fallout from a draft report on childhood chronic disease, which suggests RFK Jr is folding on his promise to ban agricultural pesticides
The future of vaccines in the US without mRNA research, following RFK Jr’s decision to cut $500 million in research grants
Then, Abdul sits down with Dr. Michael Osterholm, a founding member of the Vaccine Integrity Project Steering Committee, to discuss the goals, processes and future of the organization.
To read and/or add your name to the CDC’s letter to Congress, click here.
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Bullets at CDC (00:55:42)
Abdul and Katelyn condemn the violence at the CDC headquarters last week, and the startlingly weak response from lawmakers. Then they unpack Trump’s newest executive order, which seeks to give his own appointees the power to approve federal grants. They also discuss the future of the FDA as Vinay Prasad makes his return, following his resignation last month.
Then Abdul talks to Sherrell Byrd, founder of SOWEGA Rising, which has organized in rural Georgia to bring fresh produce to rural communities that lack grocery stores. They discuss the health implications of food deserts, and how food justice can change lives.
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New Casualties on RFK Jr’s Chopping Block (01:00:32)
Abdul unpacks the week in public health, which includes:
Vinay Prasad’s exit from FDA
Susan Monarez’s confirmation to lead CDC
New childhood vaccination data
The EPA’s move to rollback the endangerment finding
Why more experts have been ousted from ACIP
Then Abdul interviews professor Dr. Brian Willoughby about his research on porn use among young people, and what parents should know about modern porn content.
Note: We recorded this episode before RFK Jr announced the cancellation of $500 million in funding for mRNA vaccine development. However, Abdul and Katelyn discussed the threat of mRNA research cuts in our May 7 and June 3 episodes. (their May convo begins at 00:11:00 / their June convo begins at 00:16:00)
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Another Day, Another RFK Headline (01:03:56)
Abdul and Katelyn unpack the latest headlines on RFK Jr and HHS, followed by some optimistic news on the spread of measles and Covid. Then Abdul talks to public health educator Dorian Johnson about the wild world of TikTok and Instagram - and how health professionals can harness it to build more trust and goodwill with the public.
This episode was made in collaboration with our sponsor deBeaumont Foundation. You can follow Dorian Johnson on social media @thephuncle on TikTok and Instagram.
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Sugar Daddies and Budget Baddies (01:05:20)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest in public health including:
Congress’ vote to reinstate $400 million in funding for global AIDS treatment
Trump’s budget proposal to cut 40% of the NIH budget
The health differences in Coca Cola sweetened with sugar vs high fructose corn syrup
Why heart attack is no longer the leading cause of death in the US
A comprehensive review of GI cancer research that show sharp rise in cases among young people
Then Abdul talks to Dr. Elaine Batchlor from Martin Luther King Jr Community Healthcare about how the impending Medicaid cuts will strain hospitals that serve low-income patients.
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Stall Tactics and Scare Tactics (01:16:24)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest in public health news, including:
Why the cancellation of a key federal health meeting could spell trouble for the future of preventative care in America
The Trump Administration's latest move to intimidate doctors
Medicare’s plan to use AI to help make decisions on prior authorizations
Moderna’s new Covid vaccine, and why it’s only authorized for kids at high risk
Then Abdul talks to fitness influencer Dr. Mike Israetel about his approach to explaining evidence-based science on bodybuilding, and how to build trust with an audience prone to fringe theories.
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A Big Brutal Bill (00:56:34)
Abdul and Katelyn catch up on a harrowing week in public health, after Republicans passed Trump’s mega bill. They discuss:
New work requirements for Medicaid and SNAP beneficiaries
Why rural hospitals risk closure due to the upcoming changes to Medicaid
New renewal requirements for people who buy health insurance on the Affordable Care Act marketplaces
A new high in measles cases, which now jeopardize our “elimination status” distinction
A recent court ruling that halts RFK Jr’s plans to restructure HHS
Then Abdul talks to Dr. Andres Lopez from the Coalition of Communities of Color about their organization's innovative work in community data collection.
This interview was produced in collaboration with our sponsor deBeaumont Foundation.
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MAHA Comes for Vaccine (01:03:42)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss a busy week in health news including:
The most troubling aspects of this week's ACIP meeting, after RFK Jr's appointees convened to set vaccine policy for next fall.
A flimsy deal among the nation's biggest health insurers, who mutually pinky-promised to improve their prior authorization processes.
RFK Jr's announcement that the US will no longer fund GAVI, the global organization that vaccinates poor children around the world.
A new court order that demands the Trump Administration reinstate hundreds of NIH grants.
Then Abdul sits down with author and legal expert Leah Litman to discuss the biggest SCOTUS rulings of the year, and what it means for the future of public health.
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A quick note about this week's episode (00:01:05)
Abdul shares a scheduling note, as we closely track this week's ACIP meeting.
RFK Jr Euthanizes ACIP (01:09:35)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss a rocky week in public health including:
RFK Jr gutting ACIP to replace every member with his own appointees.
The LA protests, and how immigration raids hurt community health
Good trouble at NIH, as staff band together and demand director Jay Bhattacharya defend their research
Then Abdul talks to Jaymes Black, CEO of The Trevor Project, about the Trump Administration's effort to weaponize the government against LBGTQ+ Americans, including cutting the 988 suicide Lifeline.
We are off next week for the Juneteenth holiday. We will be back with another episode on June 26.
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Boos, Boosters and BooBoos (01:14:37)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest in science and health including:
Senator Joni Ernst’s “we’re all going to die” townhall moment
The CDC and FDA’s conflicting guidance on Covid boosters
The errors in RFK Jr's MAHA report
More devastating funding cuts to medical research, including a future HIV vaccine
Then Abdul sits down with Dr. Carmen Rojas, the President and CEO of the Marguerite Casey Foundation to talk about the role of philanthropy over the next four years, and why MCF has dramatically increased their funding to non-profits to meet this moment.
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US COVID Vaccine Policy by Vibes (01:05:04)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest in public health including:
The FDA’s new rules on Covid boosters
RFK’s claim that Americans shouldn’t take his advice
Florida’s decision to remove fluoride from the drinking water
New proposed cuts to Medicaid and SNAP
A genetic breakthrough that saved the life of a 9 month old baby
Then Abdul talks to prescription drug policy expert Dr. Aaron Kesselheim about Trump’s feeble attempt to address drug prices, and what could actually be done to bring them down.
NOTE: We are dark next week for the Memorial Day holiday. We will be back with a new episode on June 5.
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Democrats Confront RFK Jr. (01:21:56)
Katelyn and Abdul break down the latest news in public health and policy, including:
RFK’s appearance at the House Appropriations Committee and the Senate Health Committee
The House budget proposal to cut Medicaid
Donald Trump’s Executive Order to bring down drug prices
Trump’s nominee for Surgeon General
Then Abdul interviews former FDA Commissioner Dr. David Kessler about his new book Diet, Drugs and Dopamine.
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The Problem with “Do Your Own Research” (01:18:03)
Abdul and Katelyn break down the latest in public health, including:
RFK’s Jr’s push to test all future vaccines against placebos
Why the phrase “Do Your Own Research” often leads to mis and disinformation
New threats to MRNA vaccine research
A huge NIH investment toward a future universal flu vaccine
Why some leading medical journals received accusatory letters from a Trump surrogate
A new poll that shows Americans agree on the most pressing public health needs, but disagree on the solutions
Then Abdul sits down with Astra Taylor and Lindsey Muniak from The Debt Collective to talk about their work fighting medical debt while building solidarity among debtors.
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Baby Boom or Bust? (01:20:24)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest news in health and policy, including:
Trump’s proposal to increase the birth rate by giving women $5000 baby bonuses
The political divide over measles
Why RFK Jr is being asked to testify at the Senate HELP committee in May
The closure of nine schools in Milwaukee due to lead contamination
Then Abdul and Katelyn talk to Princeton political science professors Dr. Frances Lee and Dr. Stephen Macedo about their new book “In Covid’s Wake.”
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RFK Jr’s Autism Registry (01:14:10)
Abdul and Katelyn discuss the latest in health policy this week including:
RFK Jr’s plan to form a national registry of Americans with autism
The shift to make US health policy look more like Europe’s
The latest news on the Texas measles outbreak
A White House budget proposal that calls for cutting $40 billion from HHS next year
Why NIH’s top expert on ultra-processed foods left the agency
Then Abdul interviews Harvard polling expert Dr. Gillian SteelFisher about a new survey on pandemic safety measures -- and most Americans are more open than you think! And a special thanks to deBeaumont Foundation for their contribution to today’s interview.
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A message from Abdul (00:01:33)
RFK’s September Surprise (01:03:55)
Abdul and Katelyn cover this week’s health news, which includes:
RFK’s bizarre promise to reveal the cause of Autism by September
The latest in the Texas measles outbreak
Why DOGE cuts have left HHS data systems vulnerable to cyberhacks
The discovery of lead in Milwaukee’s drinking water, and CDC’s failure to help
The risks of RFK’s Jr’s crusade against fluoride
Then Abdul sits down with Dr. Zachary Rubin to talk about allergy season and the many questions we have about antihistamines, peanuts and pollen!
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