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A Journey Into Wolf Park with Ryan Talbot [Episode 270] (01:04:34)
In this first part of our conversation with Ryan Talbot, Behavioral Enrichment and Training Manager at Wolf Park, we dive into the winding and thoughtful path that brought him from computer engineering into the world of applied behavior analysis and cooperative care. Ryan shares how a formative visit to Wolf Park opened his eyes to the power of relationships built through understanding another being's umwelt, setting him on a path of lifelong learning in behavior science. Across the episode, Ryan reflects on how engineering thinking and behavior analysis intersect in his work. He discusses debugging software versus analyzing behavior, the parallels between instrumentation and communication, and how these concepts helped shape his approach to training wolves with clarity and compassion. Ryan also describes the early cooperative care efforts at Wolf Park, from reducing reliance on human wolf bonds to developing voluntary, transferable husbandry behaviors with the help of colleagues and mentors. Together, Ryan and host Ryan Cartlidge explore themes of motivation, imposter syndrome, community, and what it means to contribute to a field from an unconventional starting point. From building wooden target blocks to prototyping touchscreen devices for wolves, Ryan shares how creativity, curiosity, and open source values influence both his training and his desire to help others learn and grow alongside their animals. Throughout this episode, we explore: ✅ The moment at Wolf Park that sparked Ryan's interest in behavior and umwelt ✅ How engineering concepts like debugging and instrumentation map onto behavior analysis ✅ The evolution of cooperative care training with wolves and wolf dogs at Wolf Park ✅ Why Ryan sees behavior as a physical science governed by predictable laws ✅ The influence of mentors and colleagues throughout his learning journey ✅ Thoughts on imposter syndrome, industry identity, and finding one's place in the training community ✅ Open source values, tinkering, and creative tools that support clearer communication with learners This conversation offers a fascinating look at how diverse backgrounds enrich our field, and how curiosity and compassion can shape meaningful work with animals. Links https://wolfpark.org/ https://www.facebook.com/wolfparkindiana https://www.instagram.com/wolfparkindiana/ Links papers referred to during conversation: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40617-023-00890-1 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40617-023-00850-9
The Business Side of Dog Training with Sara Brueske [Episode 269] (01:01:41)
In this candid and practical conclusion to their two-part conversation, Ryan Cartlidge and Sara Brueske shift from the training field to the front office to discuss the business of animal training. Sara shares an "in the trenches" look at her journey into facility ownership and the evolution of her business, Happy Dog Lodge. The conversation centers on a service model often debated within the positive reinforcement community: Board and Train. Sara offers a transparent look at the ethics, logistics, and communication strategies required to offer this service in a way that prioritises client education, successful skill transfer, and the wellbeing of the dog. Beyond the specific service, Ryan and Sara discuss the broader challenges of entrepreneurship, from the weight of managing a team to the art of marketing to both clients and professional peers. Sara's insights provide a valuable roadmap for any trainer navigating the complexities of making their passion a sustainable profession. Throughout this episode, we explore: ✅ The shift from solo sport trainer to facility owner and team leader ✅ A deep dive into the Board and Train model from a positive reinforcement perspective ✅ Strategies for ensuring successful training transfer from trainer to client ✅ The vital difference between marketing to your clients and marketing to your peers ✅ The real-world challenges and ethical considerations of running a training business ✅ How to build a service that meets market demand while upholding your training philosophy Part two is a must-listen for any training professional, offering an honest look at the sometimes uncomfortable but crucial business side of what we do and how to do it with integrity and foresight. Links Happy Dog Lodge - Boarding, Training, Grooming in Cambridge, MN www.happydoglodge.com Fenzi Dog Sports Academy www.fenzidogsportsacademy.com Facebook page: www.facebook.com/brueskesara
From Play to Performance with Sara Brueske [Episode 268] (00:51:16)
In the first part of this energising two-part conversation, Ryan Cartlidge sits down with Sara Brueske, professional trainer, sport competitor, and owner of On the Run Canine Center. Known for her joyful approach to training and her skill across an impressive range of dog sports, Sara offers a refreshing and practical look at what motivates dogs to engage, play, and grow with us as partners. Drawing from her decades of experience, Sara shares why play sits at the heart of her training philosophy and how intrinsic motivation can shape confident, resilient, and enthusiastic learners. She explores the art of keeping sessions light and fun, how to build engagement with dogs who are shy or easily overwhelmed, and why honouring the individual dog is central to sustainable sport training and family-dog work. Ryan and Sara also unpack how games can support reactive and sensitive dogs, how choice contributes to emotional safety, and why optimism is a skill that can be developed through thoughtful reinforcement strategies. Beyond the mechanics of training, Sara offers generous insight into communication, relationship building, and supporting guardians to feel successful and empowered. Throughout this episode, we explore: ✅ How play and intrinsic motivation strengthen engagement and partnership ✅ Strategies for helping shy, hesitant, or easily discouraged dogs build confidence ✅ Why variety, flexible criteria, and well-timed reinforcement keep dogs in an optimistic learning state ✅ The role of games and choice-based activities in supporting reactive or sensitive dogs ✅ How to balance performance goals with emotional wellbeing in dogs and handlers ✅ Sara's approach to guiding guardians through clear communication and achievable success Whether you are a dog sport enthusiast, a family-dog trainer, or someone looking to bring more joy into your daily training sessions, this conversation with Sara offers practical tools and thoughtful reminders that learning works best when everyone is having fun. Links Happy Dog Lodge - Boarding, Training, Grooming in Cambridge, MN www.happydoglodge.com Fenzi Dog Sports Academy www.fenzidogsportsacademy.com Facebook page: www.facebook.com/brueskesara
Movement, Mindfulness, and Mastery with Lori Stevens [Episode 267] (01:05:03)
In this reflective and wisdom-filled conversation, Ryan Cartlidge welcomes back Lori Stevens, canine fitness, movement, and behavior specialist, creator of the Balance Harness, and long-time leader in the world of positive reinforcement training. As Lori marks her retirement from the professional speaking circuit, she takes us through the lessons that have defined her teaching philosophy and the perspectives that continue to guide her today. Drawing from decades of experience, Lori shares how her background in dance and movement shaped her keen eye for posture, balance, and subtle physical cues, and how these factors profoundly influence both behavior and wellbeing. Together, Ryan and Lori explore what it really means to be concise and precise as teachers, not just with our animal learners, but with the human ones too. From refining observation skills to simplifying feedback and setting learners up for success, Lori's insights reveal the quiet power of doing less to achieve more. Throughout this episode, we discuss: ✅ Why movement, posture, and physical comfort are critical variables in behavior and learning ✅ The art of teaching with clarity, and the difference between being concise and being precise ✅ How giving "one to three things" to focus on can transform learning outcomes ✅ The importance of slowing down, observing deeply, and trusting the process ✅ Lori's reflections on mentorship, gratitude, and the evolving landscape of positive reinforcement training Whether you are a new trainer just finding your feet or a seasoned professional reflecting on your journey, this conversation is an inspiring reminder that every small, thoughtful step forward can be life-changing for both our learners and ourselves.
Generalization, Growth & Good Faith Learning – Ellen Yoakum [Episode 266] (00:49:05)
In this insightful conclusion to our two-part conversation, Ellen Yoakum—Certified Separation Anxiety Pro Behavior Consultant, KPA CTP, and Behavior Consultant with Pet Harmony—returns to explore how we can thoughtfully apply the learning principles we use with our animal learners to ourselves and the humans we work with. Building on the foundations of Part One, Ellen and Ryan dive into the complexities of generalization—how humans, much like our non-human learners, can struggle to transfer skills across contexts. From communication and empathy to client coaching and professional growth, Ellen offers compassionate strategies for building fluency, resilience, and sustainability in both behavior change and life. Together, they explore: ✅ Translating behavioral principles from dogs to humans—and ourselves ✅ Creating safe learning spaces for clients, colleagues, and trainers alike ✅ How understanding "pain points" can reshape client plans and improve outcomes ✅ Teaching for generalization without overwhelming learners ✅ Rethinking perfection and building skills for recovery when "life gets lifey" Ellen's reflections on generalization, empathy, and sustainable growth remind us that training isn't just about the animals—it's about the entire learning ecosystem. Her insights leave us inspired to meet our learners where they are, celebrate progress over perfection, and approach every interaction—human or non-human—with curiosity and care. Links Enrichment for the Real World Petharmonytraining.com Pet Harmony on Instagram and Facebook Pet Harmony Pro on Instagram and TikTok
Good Enough to Get Going: Lessons from Ellen Yoakum [Episode 265] (00:59:48)
In this thoughtful first half of a two-part conversation, we're joined by the insightful and articulate Ellen Yoakum—Certified Separation Anxiety Pro Behavior Consultant, KPA CTP, and Behavior Consultant with Pet Harmony. Ellen's path in animal behavior began at the University of Washington, where she immersed herself in captive animal welfare and enrichment research under mentors including Dr. Eduardo Fernandez, Dr. James Ha, and Dr. Renee Ha. From conducting enrichment studies with gray wolves, penguins, and brown bears to working with Natural Encounters Inc. on free-flight avian programs, Ellen's career has spanned species, disciplines, and continents—all united by her deep curiosity about the teacher–learner relationship. Today, through her work with Pet Harmony, Ellen helps families and professionals navigate the complex needs of both human and non-human learners with compassion, creativity, and clarity. In this conversation, she and Ryan explore: ✅ The formative influence of Ellen's early research and mentors on her consulting approach ✅ How her experiences across species—from wolves to macaws—shaped her perspective on enrichment and welfare ✅ Why she finds comfort in being "the least knowledgeable person in the room" ✅ How interoception, emotional awareness, and naming our experiences support better communication and empathy ✅ The power of language, inclusive communication, and "assuming good intent" in our professional and personal relationships Ellen's reflections invite us to embrace imperfection, lead with curiosity, and build training cultures grounded in good faith and shared growth. Stay tuned for part two, where we'll dive deeper into her work with Pet Harmony, mentorship, and sustainable strategies for supporting both people and their pets. Links Enrichment for the Real World Petharmonytraining.com Pet Harmony on Instagram and Facebook Pet Harmony Pro on Instagram and TikTok Bear Studies: The Effects of Automated Scatter Feeders on Captive Grizzly Bear Activity Budgets Seasonal and Daily Activity of Two Zoo-Housed Grizzly Bears (Ursus Arctos Horribilis) Caregiver Burden Resources
Megan Sanders: Why Training the Trainer Changes Everything [Episode 264] (01:06:55)
In this second half of our two-part conversation, we're joined again by the insightful Megan Sanders—zoo behavior consultant, educator, and long-time advocate for evidence-based training. Building on Part One, where we explored Megan's career journey and the value of leaning into discomfort, this episode dives into her master's thesis research on how best to teach the teachers—animal trainers themselves. Megan shares how tools like Behavior Skills Training (BST) and PORTL can systematically shape trainer mechanics, improve procedural fidelity, and ultimately lead to less stressed, more successful animals. Together, we explore: ✅ Why training trainers deserves the same precision and care as training animals ✅ How PORTL, peer feedback, and goats became unlikely research allies ✅ The challenges of measuring trainer skill and bridging it to real-world animal outcomes ✅ Why "the why" matters—giving trainers logical, observable reasons behind every step ✅ How research leaves us with more questions (and why that's a good thing) Megan's story reminds us that the heart of effective animal care often starts with how we teach the humans holding the leash, bucket, or target stick. By bringing clarity, systematic teaching, and curiosity to the process, Megan is helping shape a future where trainers feel more confident, animals thrive, and the science of behavior continues to grow. Links https://www.behaviorworks.org/ https://absc.ku.edu/ https://behaviorexplorer.com/
Megan Sanders: Training Journeys Across Species and Settings [Episode 263] (00:58:35)
In this inspiring first half of a two-part conversation, we're joined by the accomplished and thoughtful Megan Sanders—zoo behavior consultant, educator, and long-time advocate for evidence-based training. With over 23 years in the zoo field, much of it at Cheyenne Mountain Zoo, Megan's journey has spanned caring for everything from goats and guinea pigs to snow leopards and mountain lions. Along the way, she became CMZ's first Animal Behavior Programs Manager, helped launch zoo-wide training and enrichment initiatives, and co-developed courses that have shaped the next generation of zookeepers. Beyond the zoo, Megan has also taught in higher education, supported service dog programs, and now collaborates with Behavior Works LLC as a consultant and instructor. Together, we explore: ✅ How Megan's early squirrel and wombat encounters set her on a path toward behavior science ✅ Her evolution from keeper to building zoo-wide training systems ✅ The pivotal influence of mentors like Susan Friedman and Steve Martin ✅ Why "playing with better tennis players" is vital for professional growth ✅ The challenges of embracing discomfort as a pathway to improvement Megan's story is a reminder that growth often comes from leaning into the uncomfortable, surrounding ourselves with people who challenge us, and staying curious about both animals and ourselves. Stay tuned for part two, where we'll dive into her master's thesis research on teaching strategies for animal trainers and transferring skills into practice. Links https://www.behaviorworks.org/ https://absc.ku.edu/ https://behaviorexplorer.com/
Mari Valgma – Unlocking the Power of Movement Puzzles [Episode 262] (01:05:24)
In the second half of this enlightening conversation, we're once again joined by Dr. Mari Valgma—Certified Professional Canine Fitness Trainer, creator of Movement Puzzles, and founder of The Moving Canine. After hearing Mari's remarkable journey in part one, we now dive deep into the work that has touched thousands of dogs and their humans worldwide. Mari unpacks the origins and applications of Movement Puzzles, sharing how a simple idea has blossomed into a global community dedicated to canine fitness, confidence, and joy. Together, we explore: ✅ The philosophy and structure behind Movement Puzzles ✅ How fitness training builds resilience and problem-solving skills in dogs ✅ Real-world examples of dogs gaining confidence and coordination through movement ✅ The evolution of Mari's international community and its unexpected growth ✅ How trainers and guardians alike can use movement to enrich everyday life Mari's approach shows us that when we reframe fitness as play, exploration, and empowerment, we unlock not only healthier bodies but also stronger, more confident minds. This conversation will leave you inspired to think about movement as both a foundation and a gift for the dogs in your care. Links Website: www.themovingcanine.com Free two-ball game training series: available via the website Facebook: Mari Valgma – The Moving Canine Instagram: @the.moving.canine
Mari Valgma and The Journey Behind Movement Puzzles [Episode 261] (01:00:04)
In this inspiring first half of a two-part conversation, we're joined by the innovative and passionate Dr. Mari Valgma - Certified Professional Canine Fitness Trainer, creator of Movement Puzzles, and trailblazer bringing evidence-based training from Estonia to the world. Mari's story is anything but ordinary. From pursuing a PhD in maritime engineering in the UK to pioneering canine fitness training back home in Estonia, her journey reflects a powerful blend of problem-solving, resilience, and creativity. What started as a search to support her own dog's joint health has grown into a global movement helping thousands of dogs gain confidence, coordination, and joy through movement-based training. Together, we explore: ✅ How Mari's engineering background shaped her approach to canine fitness ✅ The pivotal role her dogs played in her shift from academia to training ✅ Why fitness is foundational to both physical wellness and behavioral confidence ✅ The challenges and triumphs of building a dog training career in a small country ✅ The evolution of Movement Puzzles from sport dog fitness to a confidence-building tool for all dogs Mari's journey is a vivid reminder that when we follow curiosity, honor the dogs in front of us, and embrace creative problem-solving, entirely new possibilities emerge - for dogs, their people, and the wider training community. Stay tuned for part two, where we'll dive deep into the nuts and bolts of Movement Puzzles and their transformative impact. Links Website: www.themovingcanine.com Free two-ball game training series: available via the website Facebook: Mari Valgma – The Moving Canine Instagram: @the.moving.canine
The Reinforcement History We Ask Others to Ignore with Adam Skandarani [Episode 260] (00:53:34)
In this second installment of our two-part conversation, Adam Skandarani returns to explore one of the most nuanced and vital topics in our industry: the intersection of art, science, and culture in animal training. Blending professional insight, lived experience, and thoughtful introspection, Adam and Ryan unpack the complexities that arise when training mechanics meet real-world messiness—where logical reasoning, cultural norms, and individual values can shape how training is practiced, received, and understood. Together, we explore: ✅ The difference between applying science and embodying artistry in training ✅ How "cultural fogs" impact both client beliefs and trainer behaviors ✅ Why critical thinking and curiosity are essential tools of the trade ✅ Practical examples of shaping, splitting, and preparing for real-world success ✅ How to hold multiple truths at once—and communicate them with care ✅ The role of social media in shaping modern training discourse ✅ Adam's vision for a future guided by understanding, welfare, and curiosity From skill-building to introspection, from koalas to kickback stands, this episode is a deep dive into what it means to be more than "just" a dog trainer. It's about becoming an effective, empathetic, and artful practitioner—for all species, including our own. Links www.flashofbrilliancedogs.com instagram.com/flashofbrilliancedogs https://www.facebook.com/FlashofBrillianceDog flashofbrilliancedogs@gmail.com
From Lunging to Learning: Flash Gordon's Legacy with Adam Skandarani [Episode 259] (00:52:06)
In this powerful and heartfelt first part of a two-part conversation, we're joined by the insightful and compassionate Adam Skandarani—Certified Control Unleashed Instructor, Karen Pryor Academy Certified Training Partner, and tireless advocate for both dogs with Really Big Feelings and the humans who support them. Adam takes us on their "behavior odyssey," tracing a journey shaped by learning, unlearning, and growing alongside their two Boxers—Sansa and the unforgettable Flash Gordon. Through stories that are raw, moving, and instructive, Adam shares how Flash, with all his intensity, reactivity, and need for connection, became not just a training challenge but their greatest teacher. Together, we explore: ✅ How unmet social and medical needs can drive misunderstood behavior ✅ Why talking about behavior without discussing its context is a fruitless endeavor ✅ The power of control, decompression, and choice in building behavioral wellness ✅ Lessons from the late great Flash Gordon, ATA's honorary "Chief Remedial Socialization Officer" ✅ Practical ways to support clients navigating resistance around pain assessment ✅ The importance of trainer self-care and embracing therapeutic support This episode is a beautiful reminder that beneath every behavior lies a story—and that when we meet our learners where they are, profound transformation is possible. Dedicated to the memory of Flash, whose legacy continues to teach us all. Links www.flashofbrilliancedogs.com instagram.com/flashofbrilliancedogs https://www.facebook.com/FlashofBrillianceDog flashofbrilliancedogs@gmail.com
Juliana DeWillems: Beyond Training - How Management Shapes Behavior [Episode 258] (00:55:26)
In the second part of our conversation with Juliana DeWillems - Certified Dog Behavior Consultant, faculty member at the Karen Pryor Academy, and author of Manage It! - we dive headfirst into a topic often overlooked in our industry: management. Juliana unpacks why management is more than just a stopgap solution and how it can serve as a powerful, proactive, and compassionate tool for behavior change. Drawing from the content of her book and years of hands-on experience, Juliana walks us through how antecedent arrangement, environmental adjustments, and unmet needs shape the behaviors we see - and how thoughtful management can help create real change for animals and their guardians. Throughout this episode, we explore: ✅ What "management" really means - and how to define it across different audiences ✅ The relationship between antecedents, behavior, and long-term success ✅ Why management is not "just a band-aid," but often the most ethical, effective choice ✅ Practical talking points for trainers when advocating for management strategies with clients ✅ How embracing simplicity and going "back to basics" can clear the fog and enhance outcomes Whether you're brand new to training or a seasoned professional, Juliana's thoughtful insights offer a refreshing look at how sometimes the simplest strategies are the most impactful. This episode reminds us that behavior is always happening - and it's our job to make the environment work for everyone involved. Links https://www.instagram.com/jwdogtraining/ https://www.facebook.com/jwdogtrainingandbehavior/ https://www.tiktok.com/@jwdogtraining https://www.jwdogtraining.com/ https://www.jwdogtraining.com/training-app
Chirag Patel Unpacks the Bucket Game & His Behavioural Philosophy [Episode 257] (01:02:55)
In this episode of the Animal Training Academy podcast, we are honoured to welcome back Chirag Patel - an internationally acclaimed behaviour and training consultant whose innovative work spans species, continents, and disciplines. Chirag is perhaps best known for creating the Bucket Game and for his deep commitment to ethical, science-based, cooperative care. During this rich and thoughtful conversation, Chirag and host Ryan Cartlidge explore the origin story of the Bucket Game, the pivotal influence of Susan Friedman and other mentors, and the process of bringing empowerment and agency to animals through training. Chirag offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at the reflective practices that fuel his creativity and the radical behavioural lens through which he navigates the world. Listeners are treated to discussions on maintaining innovation across a long career, embracing the individuality of each learner (human and non-human alike), the role of functional assessments in behavioural design, and the deeply personal journey of adopting behaviour analysis as a worldview. What You'll Discover in This Episode: 🪣 How a Target store and a German Shepherd helped spark the Bucket Game. 🪣 The lasting impact of Susan Friedman's work on Chirag's thinking and teaching. 🪣 Strategies for staying innovative without losing touch with foundational science. 🪣 The behavioural analytic process behind self-reflection and online feedback. 🪣 Chirag's take on spirituality, radical acceptance, and applying ABA to everyday life. Why This Episode is a Must-Listen: Whether you've long admired Chirag Patel's work or are encountering his ideas for the first time, this episode offers an unfiltered glimpse into the mindset of a behaviour professional who walks his talk. From deep philosophical insights to practical training gems, this is an episode you'll want to revisit time and again. Engage With Us: Subscribe to the podcast, share this episode with fellow behaviour nerds, and join our global community at www.atamember.com as we continue to elevate our craft with compassion, curiosity, and science. Links: https://www.instagram.com/chiragpatelconsulting/ https://www.chiragpatelconsulting.com/welcome https://www.facebook.com/chiragpatelconsulting/
Juliana DeWillems: Finding Fulfillment and Avoiding Burnout in Dog Training [Episode 256] (00:58:00)
In this first installment of a two-part conversation, we welcome Juliana DeWillems - Certified Dog Behavior Consultant, Karen Pryor Academy faculty member, and founder of JW Dog Training - for a deeply honest and empowering discussion. Juliana shares her unique journey into the world of animal training - from event planning at a humane society to discovering her calling through fostering rambunctious adolescent dogs. Unlike many, Juliana entered the field without first navigating aversive methods, drawn instinctively to positive reinforcement by both curiosity and compassion. We also explore: ✅ What burnout looked and felt like for Juliana as a business owner and trainer ✅ How she reshaped her career (and life) to align with her strengths and values ✅ The emotional realities of working in a helping profession ✅ Why therapy, self-awareness, and redefining success are critical tools for sustainability ✅ The possibilities—and pitfalls—of building a digitally-based animal training business Juliana's insights will resonate with anyone who's ever questioned their capacity to "do it all," and her vulnerability provides a roadmap for building a career with more intention, peace, and joy. Whether you're a seasoned pro or new to the field, this episode offers inspiration, validation, and hope for a thriving future. Links https://www.instagram.com/jwdogtraining/ https://www.facebook.com/jwdogtrainingandbehavior/ https://www.tiktok.com/@jwdogtraining https://www.jwdogtraining.com/ https://www.jwdogtraining.com/training-app
Tom Candy on Burnout, Boundaries & Breakthroughs in Shelter Work [Episode 255] (01:01:51)
In this continuation of our two-part series, Tom Candy returns to the Animal Training Academy Podcast to dive even deeper into the complex, emotional, and incredibly impactful world of shelter and rescue behavior work. As a Certified Clinical Animal Behaviorist and founder of Simplifying Shelter Behaviour, Tom brings over 15 years of experience in the field and a relentless commitment to improving animal welfare. In this episode, Tom opens up about the human side of behavior work in shelter settings—discussing the emotional toll, the importance of support systems, and the nuanced decisions behavior professionals must make every day. With heart, humor, and humility, he shares insights into: ✅ Navigating the mental load and moral dilemmas of behavior work in rescue environments ✅ The significance of peer support and reflective practice to combat compassion fatigue ✅ How to balance behavioral outcomes with the best welfare options for animals and their caregivers ✅ Empowering shelter staff and volunteers with practical, positive-based solutions ✅ Why clear communication and small wins can create powerful ripples of change This episode is a must-listen for anyone working in or alongside rescue and shelter organizations. Whether you're a trainer, behavior consultant, volunteer, or advocate, Tom's grounded perspective and lived experience will leave you feeling seen, supported, and inspired to do more of the good work—without burning out. Links https://open.spotify.com/show/1Ea6VTImAPcnlXilJYunij?si=9494adef3f064d14 https://simplifyingshelterbehaviour.com/ https://educanine.org/2025-conference?fbclid=IwY2xjawKHUYJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETA5Y3ZLaDQ0eDFYdHUyRHBNAR4dLvacTszLMncdW44_WmU-oeObn6FsRO7wApjPdj_HZvsTnOCB34Xqf6xsqg_aem_b3aPz3fSwo7LroNisEnxzw
Tom Candy on Simplifying Shelter Behaviour: From Stress to Success [Episode 254] (00:51:18)
In this first installment of a two-part conversation,, we welcome Tom Candy—Certified Clinical Animal Behaviorist and founder of Simplifying Shelter Behaviour—for an engaging discussion that dives deep into the realities, challenges, and opportunities within the world of shelter and rescue animal care. With over 15 years of experience in the field, Tom shares practical wisdom drawn from his work across the UK's largest dog welfare organization and his efforts to elevate animal welfare and training standards in shelters. His perspective blends hands-on experience, academic rigor, and a deep passion for improving the lives of both animals and the humans who care for them. Throughout this episode, we explore: ✅ Common myths and misconceptions around "rescue behavior problems" ✅ How training and behavior programs can be realistically integrated into shelter environments ✅ The value of consistency, environmental management, and caregiver education ✅ Why language and communication matter when discussing animal behavior in shelter settings ✅ The importance of data collection, reflective practice, and organizational buy-in for sustainable change Tom's grounded, compassionate approach provides a refreshing look at behavior modification within the shelter context—emphasizing empowerment over blame, collaboration over quick fixes, and science over assumption. Whether you're a trainer, behavior consultant, volunteer, or shelter staff member, this conversation offers inspiration and actionable takeaways to help improve outcomes for animals in your care. Links https://open.spotify.com/show/1Ea6VTImAPcnlXilJYunij?si=9494adef3f064d14 https://simplifyingshelterbehaviour.com/ https://educanine.org/2025-conference?fbclid=IwY2xjawKHUYJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETA5Y3ZLaDQ0eDFYdHUyRHBNAR4dLvacTszLMncdW44_WmU-oeObn6FsRO7wApjPdj_HZvsTnOCB34Xqf6xsqg_aem_b3aPz3fSwo7LroNisEnxzw
Applying Behavioral Science to Everyday Training with Dr. Keira Moore [Episode 253] (00:48:09)
Podcast Synopsis In this insightful episode of the Animal Training Academy Podcast, Dr. Keira Moore returns for part two of our thought-provoking discussion on behavior analysis, radical behaviorism, and the intersection of science and practice in both human and animal training. With her extensive background as a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA-D) and KPA-CTP certified dog trainer, Keira shares her expertise on how we can stay conceptually systematic, follow the science, and ask the right questions to refine our training approaches. Throughout this episode, we dive into five key strategies for grounding training in behavioral science, including: ✅ Understanding radical behaviorism and why it's a game-changer for ethical training ✅ The importance of following the science and identifying credible sources of knowledge ✅ Why being conceptually systematic can help trainers avoid unnecessary fluff in their methods ✅ Asking critical questions to distinguish evidence-based practices from trendy but unproven techniques ✅ The power of community and lifelong learning to enhance training effectiveness Keira's approach is both practical and thought-provoking, offering valuable takeaways for dog trainers, behavior consultants, and animal caregivers alike. Whether you're new to behavior analysis or a seasoned professional, this conversation will challenge the way you think about training and empower you to make more informed, science-based decisions. 🔗 Want to connect with Keira? Check out the following links: Pet Project Website: https://linktr.ee/petprojectdogtraining Moore Behavior Consulting Website: https://moorebehaviorconsulting.com/ Pet Project Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/petprojectdogtraining Pet Project Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCul0qh41LvTTroVZqqH-Qzw
Keira Moore on Radical Behaviorism and the Science of Training [Episode 252] (00:59:27)
In this first installment of a two-part conversation, we welcome Dr. Keira Moore—behavior analyst, dog trainer, and dedicated advocate for compassionate, ethical training. With over two decades of experience in behavior analysis and a PhD from Western New England University, Keira bridges the worlds of human and animal behavior science, applying her expertise to both dog training and consulting on anxiety and sleep-related challenges. Keira takes us on a fascinating journey through her career, from her early love of animals and behavioral psychology studies to working with children on the autism spectrum and ultimately finding her passion in dog training. Along the way, she shares how her introduction to clicker training (involving an unexpected feline trainee!) shaped her approach to behavior modification. We also explore the core principles of radical behaviorism and how they apply across species—from humans to dogs and beyond. What You'll Discover in This Episode: 🐾 Keira's unique career path from human behavior analysis to professional dog training. 🐾 How radical behaviorism shapes our understanding of learning across species. 🐾 The power of reinforcement in behavior modification—whether working with children, dogs, or even cats! 🐾 Insights into Keira's work addressing anxiety, reactivity, and severe behavior challenges. 🐾 The science behind behavior change and how trainers can apply these principles effectively. Why This Episode is a Must-Listen: Keira's extensive expertise, combined with her engaging storytelling, makes this episode a must-hear for trainers, behaviorists, and anyone fascinated by the science of learning. Whether you're new to applied behavior analysis or a seasoned trainer looking to deepen your knowledge, this episode will challenge and inspire you. Join the Conversation: Subscribe, share, and connect with us to explore evidence-based, ethical approaches to training. And stay tuned for Part 2, where we dive even deeper into the application of behavior analysis in animal training! Links: Pet Project Website: https://linktr.ee/petprojectdogtraining Moore Behavior Consulting Website: https://moorebehaviorconsulting.com/ Pet Project Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/petprojectdogtraining Pet Project Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCul0qh41LvTTroVZqqH-Qzw
In this episode of the Animal Training Academy podcast, we are thrilled to welcome Peggy Hogan, an esteemed positive reinforcement trainer known for her groundbreaking work with horses. Peggy's journey into animal training began at a young age, fueled by a deep love for horses and a natural curiosity about communication between humans and animals. Over the years, she explored various training methodologies before fully embracing clicker training—an approach that prioritizes choice, consent, and clear communication. Throughout this engaging conversation, Peggy shares her evolution from traditional training techniques to a force-free, consent-based approach that empowers horses to actively participate in their learning. She delves into the importance of shaping, capturing, luring, and targeting—techniques that allow horses to offer behaviors willingly, without pressure. We also explore her work with miniature horses, the development of start buttons and consent signals, and how positive reinforcement is transforming the equestrian world. What You'll Discover in This Episode: 🐎 Peggy's early experiences with both horses and dogs and how they shaped her training philosophy. 🐎 The transition from Natural Horsemanship to clicker training and why she made the switch. 🐎 How shaping, capturing, and targeting create more engaged and willing equine learners. 🐎 The power of consent-based training, including start buttons and requested behaviors. 🐎 Real-life examples of how positive reinforcement has helped rescue horses and improved their welfare. Why This Episode is a Must-Listen: Peggy's passion, expertise, and innovative approach to training offer valuable insights for anyone working with horses—or any species—who wants to build a relationship based on trust, choice, and communication. Whether you're an experienced trainer or just beginning your journey with positive reinforcement, this conversation is filled with inspiring takeaways. Engage With Us: Subscribe to the podcast, share this episode with fellow trainers and equine enthusiasts, and join our growing community as we continue to explore science-based, ethical training practices. Links: Peggy's website: https://www.clickertraininghorses.com/ Peggy's online coaching: https://clickertraininghorses.com/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=59 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ClickerTrainingHorses/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/clickertraininghorses/ The Git Up R+ Challenge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKrLsOHnEeg ATA 30 day $1 trial membership >>> https://atamember.com/thirty-day-trial/
Honoring the No, Shaping the Yes with Dr. Susan Friedman [Episode 250] (01:02:07)
Podcast Synopsis In this milestone episode of the Animal Training Academy Podcast, host Ryan Cartlidge is joined once again by the incredible Dr. Susan G. Friedman—a leading expert in behavioral science and animal training. A returning guest every 50th episode, Susan brings her extensive knowledge and decades of experience to discuss the evolving role of negative reinforcement in ethical training, recognizing subtle "no" signals from animals, and the power of behavioral science to create more informed trainers. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of: ✅ The importance of teaching animals to say "no" and trainers to honor it ✅ The ethical application of negative reinforcement in animal training ✅ Sub-threshold training techniques to reduce stress and improve communication ✅ The impact of non-linear contingency analysis in understanding complex behaviors ✅ Why positive reinforcement training has been so successful—and the next frontier of voluntary medical procedures This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about progressive, evidence-based training methods. Whether you're an animal trainer, behavior consultant, or just fascinated by the science of learning, Dr. Friedman's insights will challenge your thinking and push the boundaries of what's possible in ethical animal training. 🔗 Want to learn more? Be sure to check out Dr. Friedman's resources at www.behaviorworks.org and explore the wealth of courses available through her work.
ACE Free Work and the Art of Canine Observation with Sarah Fisher [Episode 249] (00:59:18)
In part two of our engaging conversation with Sarah Fisher, renowned canine and equine behavior advisor and co-founder of Animal Centred Education (ACE), we dive even deeper into the transformative power of ACE Free Work. Sarah shares extraordinary insights from her decades of experience, explaining how detailed observations, movement analysis, and sensory experiences can add immense value to the way we understand and support our dogs. Sarah recounts pivotal moments that shaped the evolution of Free Work, including how dogs like Oscar, Cookie Dough, and Henry played a crucial role in its development. We explore how subtle body cues, posture shifts, and movement patterns reveal hidden discomfort and help us predict the emotional states of our dogs - insights that can be life-changing for trainers, caregivers, and behavior professionals alike. Sarah also shares compelling real-world case studies, demonstrating how Free Work has helped dogs navigate stress, build confidence, and reshape heavily reinforced behaviors. From its impact on pain assessment to its role in helping dogs self-regulate, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge that will challenge the way you perceive canine learning and communication. What You'll Discover in This Episode: 🐾 How Free Work allows dogs to become the pilot of their own learning 🐾 The connection between movement, body posture, and emotional well-being 🐾 How pain and discomfort can manifest in subtle but crucial ways 🐾 The impact of sensory engagement on canine relaxation and behavior change 🐾 Why ACE Free Work is a powerful tool for both dogs and their caregivers Why This Episode is a Must-Listen: Sarah's expertise and passion shine through in this fascinating discussion, providing trainers, caregivers, and behavior professionals with invaluable tools to observe, listen, and improve their understand of their dogs. If you've ever wondered how to create an enriching and supportive environment for your canine learners, this episode is a must-hear! 📢 Join the Conversation: Subscribe, share this episode, and join our ATA community as we continue to explore science-based, ethical approaches to animal training! LINKS; Tilly Farm Website ACE [Animal Centered Education]
Sarah Fisher's Journey into Animal Centred Education [Episode 248] (00:48:05)
In part one of this compelling two-part episode of the Animal Training Academy podcast, we are honored to welcome Sarah Fisher, a renowned canine and equine behavior advisor, educator, and co-founder of Animal Centred Education (ACE). With nearly 30 years of experience working with animals, Sarah has dedicated her career to helping trainers, caregivers, and behavior professionals develop a deeper understanding of their animal learners. In this first part of our conversation, Sarah takes us on a heartfelt journey through her formative years and the pivotal moments that shaped her approach to animal training. She shares insights into how childhood experiences, personal loss, and human therapeutic studies influenced her philosophy on animal welfare, behavior, and communication. We also explore the foundation of ACE, the power of Free Work, and the importance of allowing dogs to pilot their own learning experiences. What You'll Discover in This Episode: 🐾 Sarah's early experiences with animals and the lessons she learned from her upbringing. 🐾 The emotional and behavioral connections between animals and humans. 🐾 How human bodywork and therapeutic studies shaped Sarah's approach to working with animals. 🐾 The story behind Tilly Farm and how it became a hub for ACE education. 🐾 The principles of ACE Free Work and why it's transforming the lives of dogs and their caregivers. Why This Episode is a Must-Listen: Sarah's deeply personal journey, combined with her expertise in behavior and animal welfare, offers invaluable insights for trainers, behaviorists, and anyone passionate about improving the well-being of animals. Engage With Us: Subscribe to the podcast, share this episode with fellow trainers and animal enthusiasts, and join our vibrant community to explore science-based, ethical training approaches. LINKS; Tilly Farm Website ACE [Animal Centered Education]
Chris Jenkins on Leadership, Learning, and Moving the Needle [Episode 247] (00:58:47)
In this episode of the Animal Training Academy Podcast, Ryan Cartlidge welcomes back Chris Jenkins, Chief Operating Officer of Natural Encounters, Inc. (NEI). Chris has spent decades in the field of animal training and behavior management, working with zoos, theme parks, and professional organizations worldwide. As a leader in animal training education, he has played a crucial role in shaping NEI's training programs, consulting with organizations to improve animal welfare, staff training, and guest experience. Chris shares his insights on leadership, professional growth, and how behavior change plays a fundamental role in moving organizations forward. He discusses his experiences developing NEI's training initiatives, the evolution of their educational programs, and the challenges of fostering a culture of continuous learning. Listeners will hear Chris reflect on lessons learned from running NEI's "TEC Talk" podcast and how sharing knowledge has shaped his own professional journey. What You'll Discover in This Episode: The evolution of NEI's training and education initiatives, including the creation of NEI TEC. How behavior science principles apply to leadership and organizational development. Insights into navigating change and overcoming resistance within organizations. The importance of mentorship and fostering a culture of professional development. Lessons learned from years of podcasting and sharing industry knowledge. Why This Episode is a Must-Listen: Chris brings a wealth of experience from the animal training industry, offering practical strategies for professionals looking to make an impact in their field. Whether you're an animal trainer, educator, or leader striving to create meaningful change in your organization, this episode provides valuable insights on growth, leadership, and the power of behavior-based decision-making. Links; IAATE [International Association of Avian Trainers & Educators] AZA [Associatin of Zoo's & Aquariums] AMBA [Animal Behaviour Management Alliance] NEI [Natural Encounters Incorporated] NEI TEC [Natrual Encounters - Training & Education Center]
Exploring 24/7 Animal Welfare with Sabrina Brando [Episode 246] (01:14:06)
In this episode of the Animal Training Academy Podcast, Ryan Cartlidge welcomes back Sabrina Brando, a psychologist and the Director of AnimalConcepts, for an engaging discussion on the intersection of animal welfare, human well-being, and environmental care. Sabrina brings decades of experience from her work in zoos, aquariums, sanctuaries, and academic settings worldwide. In this episode, Sabrina shares five key areas where animal training principles are integral to her work, covering a broad spectrum of species and settings, from zoos to city farms. Listeners will gain insights into her 24/7 Across Lifespan approach, which emphasizes creating environments that enable animals to be agents of their own lives, as well as her innovative strategies for enhancing animal welfare through training, enrichment, and cooperative care. What You'll Discover in This Episode: The importance of viewing animal care from a 24/7 perspective across the animal's lifespan. How Sabrina uses animal training principles to enhance animal welfare in zoos, shelters, and other settings. Insights into Sabrina's approach to environmental enrichment and welfare management. Strategies for supporting both animal and human well-being in professional care settings. Why This Episode is a Must-Listen: Sabrina's deep understanding of the human-animal connection and her expertise in welfare, training, and environmental management offer invaluable lessons for animal professionals. Whether you're involved in animal care, welfare research, or organizational leadership, this episode is packed with practical, forward-thinking insights that will inspire you to think more holistically about the care and well-being of animals. Links https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabrinabrando/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/animalconcepts/about/?viewAsMember=true https://www.animalconcepts.eu/ https://www.instagram.com/animalconcepts.eu/ https://www.facebook.com/SabrinaBrandoAC https://www.facebook.com/AnimalConceptsGlobal
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