Om Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way
Jevon Perra is on the search for guides that point the way to Awakening, classically called Enlightenment. Discover these guides' real life stories of physical, emotional, mental and spiritual healing and how you can partake in the same.
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Outcome Attachments & Meaning Machines #acim (00:49:16)
Discussion on Perception and Love Leila Fung shared a revelation from a previous text about realizing that they and Jared were viewing situations through a lens of annoyance or upset, though Leila Fung had "no anger" toward Jevon Perra’s family. Jevon Perra noted the many layers of perception where individuals make things as they think they are, leading to stress and anger. Leila Fung stated they were hoping to be authentically loving, with everything that comes out of them being love.Jevon Perra's Business Transition and Marketing Challenges Jevon Perra discussed their slow transition in a new business venture due to not being able to use mass marketing for bridge loans because of new website and email. They explained that mass marketing with a new email address can lead to being flagged as spam, necessitating manual texting, calling, and one-by-one emailing. Jevon Perra also mentioned being careful about communication to manage industry gossip that might get back to "Bob" to maintain a good working relationship.Focus on Shared Interests and Reducing Suffering Leila Fung shared that their focus while reading and learning would be repairing their relationship with their sister-in-law by viewing everything through a "mutual shared interest" lens. Soo Kim related to this, noting that at month-end, they perceive anyone taking them away from their production list as an "enemy" (00:06:12). Jevon Perra discussed that the function of teachers of God is to save time, and this time saving comes from letting go of attachments and allowing a non-dual perception of forgiveness which saves "thousands of years of suffering" (00:08:39).The Role of the Teacher of God The group began reading Chapter 1 of the Manual for Teachers, titled "Who are God's teachers?". Soo Kim read that a teacher of God is anyone who chooses to be one and whose only qualification is that they have chosen to not see their interests as apart from someone else's (00:02:36). Jevon Perra clarified that the language used in the text is masculine due to the original template, but the concepts are general, emphasizing that seeing interests as the same is a characteristic of the teacher (00:03:41).The Universal Course and Salvation Soo Kim continued reading, noting that teachers of God come from all over the world and religions and that their function is to save time, with each one saving "a thousand years of time" (00:07:33). They read that the central theme of the universal course is that "God's son is guiltless and in his innocence in is his salvation" (00:11:26). Jevon Perra reiterated that seeing others as guiltless makes the perceiver feel free because their perception of the other is their experience of life, which is supported by the example of people being overly friendly to them when they walk around with a puppy (00:12:46).Shift in Perspective with Brokers Jevon Perra shared a personal story about changing their negative perception and resistance toward constant phone calls from brokers after realizing the brokers were calling because they had the wrong, old email address (00:16:19). Jevon Perra explained that answering the calls led to enjoyable conversations and resulted in making deals that wouldn't have happened otherwise because the inexperienced brokers would not have known how to email the correct information (00:17:13). Jevon Perra connected this to the concept of guiltlessness and common interest, stating, "We both want to close loans" (00:18:05).Interrupting Attachments and Control Soo Kim expressed difficulty applying Jevon Perra's experience to their own situation, where interruptions from loan officers felt like an attack, particularly because interruptions lead to missed details in their job. Jevon Perra highlighted that the suffering comes from the attachment to getting things done, not the task itself, and that one can decline calls without resistance and judgment (00:19:58). Soo Kim admitted that their attitude of preventing interruptions might be an "illusion of control" (00:22:22).Leila Fung's Relational Striving and Projection Leila Fung brought up Jared, their partner, taking responsibility for family issues, allowing them to let go of control, and considered whether this meeting could help him (00:23:33). Leila Fung then discussed their struggle with striving for a relationship with their sister-in-law, who exhibits lack of communication and effort, particularly regarding a Christmas breakfast (00:27:13). Leila Fung stated they feel hurt and unprioritized due to their sister-in-law's actions, contrasting it with the effort Leila Fung feels they put in (00:30:52).Discussion on Meaning and Resistance Jevon Perra responded to Leila Fung by explaining that the suffering comes from the meaning they are putting on the situation, not the situation itself, which is neutral (00:29:36) (00:35:14). Leila Fung identified their core meaning as, "I understand. She's not prioritizing me is the story that I'm telling myself and that's not fair" (00:36:14). Jevon Perra shared their own experience of feeling better by letting go of resistance and communicating with their mother, even when they had previously chosen to ignore their calls (00:37:08).Choosing Peace Over Suffering Jevon Perra used the example of the show Pluribus to illustrate that one can choose peace even in challenging situations, asserting that there is "no situation that I can't choose peace" (00:39:10) (00:41:31). Jevon Perra concluded that their experience comes from their perception, not the actions of others, and that they must constantly let go of attachments to how things "have to be" for them to be happy (00:42:39).Focusing on Interest vs. Outcome Leila Fung stated that their focus is always on the outcome, using the example of deciding on breakfast food for their family's visit (00:43:48). Jevon Perra emphasized that while outcomes are neutral, individuals constantly try to force specific outcomes for a particular meaning (00:45:45). The meeting concluded after finishing the current chapter of the Manual for Teachers (00:46:49).
Ego Listening Is What Hurts - ACIM (00:56:14)
Ego Listening Is What Hurts - #ACIM
You're never stuck. There's another way. ACIM (00:46:42)
Jevon Perra introduced A Course in Miracles Lesson 33, highlighting the exercise of shifting perception to resolve inner disturbance, illustrating this with a personal experience where changing their viewpoint dramatically improved a previously negative experience. Soo Kim presented a workplace conflict where their sarcastic and unauthentic response to a coworker stemmed from stress and prioritizing their workload, questioning the difference between authenticity and perception, to which Jevon Perra responded that authenticity often acts as a limiting filter that causes distress when faced with differing contextual roles. Jevon Perra then used Byron Katie's "Work" to address Soo Kim’s underlying belief of "not enough time," helping Soo Kim realize that this belief caused feelings of incompetence and outward projections, concluding that releasing this idea allows for kindness and trust that necessary tasks will be completed.Course in Miracles: Lesson 33 Jevon Perra introduced Lesson 33 of A Course in Miracles workbook, "There is another way of looking at the world," and noted that they were also making lunch and chai. They described the exercise as involving five minutes in the morning and evening, alternating between casual surveying of outer perceptions and inner thoughts, while maintaining detachment and repeating the idea throughout the day (00:18:20). Perra emphasized the importance of applying the idea immediately when feeling disturbed, saying, "There's another way of looking at this" (00:20:05).Personal Experience with Shifting Perception Jevon Perra shared a personal story about moving to Missouri in their 20s, believing it was what God wanted based on their grandparents' conviction, which resulted in them being depressed for three years (00:20:05). They recounted returning years later, running their own ministry in the same place with the same people and activities, yet having a vastly better experience because they viewed it as their choice and an adventure, illustrating that the difference was their perception (00:23:59). Perra concluded that anytime someone is disturbed, it is because of the way they are looking at the situation, often perceiving it as a jail, while they are simultaneously the jail, jailer, key, and prisoner (00:25:05).Dealing with Workplace Conflict and Authenticity Soo Kim discussed a recent work situation where a coworker, an account manager, came to them, an underwriter, for help with a broker who was not understanding an explanation (00:25:05). Soo Kim admitted that their immediate, unauthentic response was to sarcastically offer to trade jobs, which reflected their tendency to be direct and prioritize their own quota of underwriting six new loans that day while also being stressed from finals (00:26:38) (00:34:54). Soo Kim questioned the difference between "authentic" behavior and perception, noting that they were still bothered by the interaction 24 hours later (00:27:47).Perception Versus Authenticity Jevon Perra challenged Soo Kim's use of the word "authentic," suggesting that it presupposes a single, rigid way of being, whereas Perra had focused on their perception and engagement with a situation (00:27:47). Perra pointed out that viewing one's "authentic self" as rigid means any different engagement against that authentic identity would lead to distress (00:29:09). Perra argued that in a work context, an authentic self is just another filter, and internal distress arises from contextualizing a role (like dealing with sales-oriented brokers) as wrong or against what one should be doing (00:30:32).Change in Work Perception Jevon Perra noted their own experience, where they quit a job and started their own business in the same office, doing the same deals and having the same conversations, but with a different perception. Specifically, they hated talking to brokers as an underwriter because they wanted data, not stories, but now, as an originator needing to close deals to survive, Perra answers every call and is willing to hear their stories, finding it interesting even if it feels like a waste of time (00:31:39). Perra highlighted that their goal shifted, and their patience increased immensely simply by putting on a different role, demonstrating that the change was internal perception, not the external situation (00:44:16).Managing Disturbance and Time Constraints Soo Kim reiterated that they maintained their boundary with the account executive, informing them, "I am not a therapist and we are not running a charity," because they have a quota to meet and talking about problems is not their job (00:33:42). Jevon Perra clarified that doing one's job and being disturbed are different, emphasizing that the disturbance is internal resistance to the world as it shows up (00:36:23). Perra identified the internal resistance as the commitment to a belief, such as "I don't have enough time" (00:38:20) (00:46:35).The Work of Byron Katie Applied to "Not Enough Time" Jevon Perra led Soo Kim through the "Work" by Byron Katie, focusing on the belief "There's not enough time". Soo Kim admitted they could not absolutely know for sure that there was not enough time until they reviewed all their loans, but they conceded that their perception of "no time" makes them feel incompetent. This feeling of incompetence then gets projected outward, causing them to react to others as if they are incompetent (00:53:48) (00:56:08).Turning Around the Belief Jevon Perra led Soo Kim to consider the reversal of the belief, "There is enough time," asking if that could be equally or more true. Soo Kim realized that if there were enough time, they would have to confront the fact that they are not very kind to themself (00:58:44). Perra pointed out that Soo Kim still has their job after working for a year, suggesting that whatever happened, there was enough time (01:00:04). Perra emphasized that if one lets go of the idea that there is not enough time, they can trust that they will figure out how to do what is necessary and allow themself to be kind, thus avoiding a natural defensive reaction against others perceived as taking their time (01:01:10).Freedom Through Perception Shift Jevon Perra concluded the discussion by reiterating the main point: "There is another way of looking at the world". They emphasized that the goal is not to change what other people want, but to be free with the same responsibilities (01:02:20). Perra suggested that if something feels bad, one should find the idea or judgment they are attached to, as this is what they can choose to shift (00:51:20) (01:03:38). Both participants agreed that the session was helpful for further thought and agreed on the importance of being "clear rather than nice" (00:40:33) (01:03:38).
Fear or Love talk with Denise at newparadigmoflove.org (01:02:59)
Fear or Love talk with Denise at newparadigmoflove.orgJevon Perra opened the discussion by establishing that miracles have no order of difficulty and are shifts in perspective from fear to love, as defined by Denise Darlene, who also explained that healthy boundaries are rooted in self-sovereignty and clarity and not fear-based, addressing a question from Soo Kim about the divine feminine and boundaries. Denise Darlene introduced trust and honesty as the first two characteristics of "God's teachers," shared details of her marriage with Joe where she offered 100% freedom and non-attachment, and suggested a healing process for triggers, which was relevant to kristen who shared they were undergoing cancer treatment and experiencing intense fear; finally, Jevon Perra announced they were quitting their job, which Denise Darlene, Leila Fung, and kristen supported.Principles of Miracles and Order of Difficulty Jevon Perra opened the discussion by reading a passage from A Course in Miracles emphasizing that there is no order of difficulty in miracles, and all expressions of love are maximal, while the source of miracles is what truly matters (00:00:00). Denise Darlene defined a miracle as a shift in perspective from fear to love, which can be consciously chosen by seeking a loving meaning in events (00:01:35). Jevon Perra shared a personal anecdote about a challenging trip to Costa Rica where they realized that obstacles could be viewed as opportunities for adventure rather than battles (00:02:58).Choosing Meaning and Perception Jevon Perra concluded that everyone is the "meaning machine," choosing between a fearful, angry story or a loving, fun story for any given circumstance (00:05:21). They connected the idea of miracles occurring naturally as expressions of love, where the real miracle is the inspiring love itself (00:06:26). Jevon Perra emphasized that choosing love is a simple choice, not something that requires achievement or external criteria, asking why anyone would choose "crazy" instead of that peaceful, loving state (00:07:53).Presence and Fear Denise Darlene asserted that being present in the moment is key to making loving choices, as fear is typically about the future or past interpretations (00:09:00). Soo Kim showed an oracle card from A Course in Miracles that speaks to the idea that everything that happens is gently planned for one's highest good, which can shift a state of fear (00:10:18). Jevon Perra reflected on how previous difficult life events, like moving to Missouri and leaving Fresno, ultimately led to a wonderful current relationship, suggesting that perhaps everything happening is the best thing possible (00:13:38) (00:15:22).Intimate Connection and Self-Reflection Jevon Perra shared how being open and engaging with everyone during their trip to Costa Rica led to wonderful intimate connections and gifts, concluding that the main difference in the experience was themself (00:15:22). They questioned if they were truly creating their own heaven or hell regardless of external circumstances (00:17:31).Divine Feminine, Boundaries, and Love Soo Kim raised a question about the distinction between the divine feminine, which extends love, and the profane feminine, which might allow being "walked all over," particularly concerning setting boundaries without enabling others (00:17:31). Denise Darlene responded that boundaries are natural when one is in a state of love and peace, contrasting this with fear-based boundary setting (00:20:34). Denise Darlene emphasized that healthy boundaries are rooted in self-sovereignty and clarity, and the other person does not have to agree (00:21:44).Trust and Honesty as Characteristics of God's Teachers Denise Darlene introduced the first two characteristics of "God's teachers" from the manual of A Course in Miracles: trust, followed by honesty (00:23:19). She stated that only those who truly trust can be truly honest, and many people live lies as part of codependent behavior, which is an attempt to be loved (00:21:44). Denise Darlene recommended Byron Katie's work as helpful for addressing codependency (00:23:19).Self-Awareness and Guilt Soo Kim became emotional, realizing how little they knew themself and expressing guilt over projection, which Denise Darlene acknowledged as a beautiful insight (00:25:43). Denise Darlene suggested that guilt comes from fear-based judgment, and a first step is to drop judgment and look at past choices through a "filter of neutrality," recognizing that the meaning was decided by the individual (00:27:31). She added that people are essentially "innocent and wounded," and judgments over choices have nothing to do with their eternal self (00:28:44).Authenticity, Freedom, and Non-Attachment in Relationships Jevon Perra asked Denise Darlene to share about the beginning of their marriage with Joe, specifically how she committed to never making him "bad" and giving him 100% freedom, even regarding sexual relationships (00:30:16). Denise Darlene explained that love is freedom, and she wanted Joe to be entirely authentic, even though they were coming out of long relationships (00:31:44). She stated that she gave Joe permission to be authentic, believing that any trigger was her own wound to work on, not Joe's problem (00:34:19).Navigating Relationship Boundaries and Personal Healing Denise Darlene shared that her boundary with Joe was that she required a monogamous relationship, and if he chose otherwise, she would leave, which was her truth (00:35:28). She noted that Joe was actually monogamous, but the "free pass" allowed them to explore authenticity. The experience helped Denise Darlene overcome the lie that she "didn't matter," realizing her worth and that Joe's initial reluctance was a "gift" from God to facilitate her internal work. Denise Darlene stressed the Buddhist law of non-attachment and accepting the love one already is, which Joe helped her develop (00:36:37) (00:56:47).The Ego, Fear, and the Path to Freedom kristen expressed that the lessons shared were difficult, with Denise Darlene affirming that addressing these things is challenging for the ego. Denise Darlene proposed that earth is a school to transcend ego patterns, and fear is an invitation to look at what is disrupting one's peace and love (00:37:48). She mentioned that awareness is 80% of the work in shifting out of fear, and tools like the Enneagram can help identify and stop ego patterns (00:40:21).Addressing Fear and Illness kristen shared they were undergoing cancer treatment, experiencing intense fear and noticing a change in themself, leading to anger and fighting with family (00:41:45). Denise Darlene suggested that kristen’s anger and resentment might be old, buried issues surfacing now because they are in a weakened state and cannot suppress them anymore (00:45:36). Denise Darlene proposed that this difficult experience is kristen’s "classroom," a path to freedom and their true identity of love, because the roots of old patterns need to be pulled up (00:47:08) (00:49:42).Process for Healing Triggers Denise Darlene outlined a specific healing process for triggers: locate the tension in the body, ask the feeling what it is and what it is here to teach (00:51:59). She explained that triggers reveal a lie (a subconscious belief) that needs to be replaced with the truth through repetition, providing the example of replacing "I don't matter" with the truth (00:53:15). A final step involves watching the anxiety or negative emotion in the body with the mind’s eye until it dissipates (00:57:44).Allowing Energy to Move Through Denise Darlene shared a technique for managing emotions by focusing the mind's eye on the energy to prevent it from "telling stories," which are what keeps people trapped in emotions. They explained that when the mind is focused, it can only do one thing at a time, allowing the energy, like a cloud, to move through. Jevon Perra expressed gratitude for Denise Darlene's service and love, noting that serving people is part of them (00:59:11).Denise Darlene's Services and Availability Jevon Perra mentioned that Denise Darlene does coaching and retreats, which is one of the main ways they share their work. Leila Fung and kristen expressed interest in the retreats, with Jevon Perra offering to text kristen Denise Darlene's contact information. Jevon Perra also noted that Denise Darlene is like a mother and a great friend, calling them "so pretty," to which Denise Darlene and Leila Fung responded with gratitude and agreement (01:00:34).
Dealing with outsiders - ACIM text Intro (00:59:01)
Dealing with outsiders - ACIM text Intro SummaryThe text frames forgiveness as the essential condition that allows prayer to rise. Prayer is timeless; forgiveness is temporary because it exists only as long as judgment exists. Judgment is the act of assigning meaning, dividing people into categories, and assuming one knows what things “mean.” Forgiveness is the release of these interpretations. When interpretations fall away, perception changes, and the present moment becomes workable. If one dislikes a person, situation, or oneself, the “problem” is usually the judgment attached to it, not the thing itself.Forgiveness ends when the belief in being a separate self ends—when identity is no longer the body or the stream of personal thoughts. In that state, everything is experienced as connected, already fulfilled, and harmless. Life becomes more like watching a play with Jesus rather than being trapped in it.Examples illustrate this.• Leila misinterpreted her child’s social situation and built elaborate stories about rejection; once she asked directly, the situation dissolved and the judgment was revealed as fiction.• Jevon described feeling rejected at a conference, noticing how his own conflicting desires—wanting inclusion and wanting to escape—created inner turmoil.The text warns that forgiveness is often misunderstood. Many use it as a weapon, implying superiority or reinforcing guilt (“I forgive you, but you were wrong”). This is “forgiveness to destroy,” which keeps sin alive, enlarges error, and treats love as dangerous. Real forgiveness does the opposite: it sees sameness, not hierarchy.Guilt is discussed as the root of suffering. The primary guilt is the belief in separation from God, which generates the special, separate self. That guilt is projected outward, causing constant searching for fault. The ego promises fulfillment in separateness but delivers contradiction: wanting acceptance while wanting uniqueness; wanting children strong but wanting them shielded from hardship; wanting love but withholding openness. The ego’s motto is “seek but do not find.”To undo guilt, one releases seriousness. Seriousness presumes that death is real, danger is real, and enemies exist. When seriousness dissolves, the need for an enemy dissolves. Attack—toward strangers, loved ones, or oneself—comes from believing danger is real and separation is real. If there is no “other,” there is no one to defend against.One discussion showed this dynamic:• kristen projected financial fear onto China and reacted with anger. Jevon pointed out the underlying fear—being asked for money and feeling trapped between giving and resenting or refusing and feeling guilty. The shift comes from reframing the ask as trust rather than burden.• Soo asked about “other” versus “enemy.” Jevon noted that an enemy begins as an “other,” and the world expands or contracts based on who is included in one’s sense of oneness.• Conversations about belonging versus uniqueness showed that the conflict is not solved by choosing one side but by recognizing that both desires arise from the mistaken identity as a separate self.Several interpersonal examples explored how to respond to overwhelming or difficult people.• Leila struggled with a talkative acquaintance. Jevon suggested either the gentle advisory approach (“In my life I’ve found…”) or the direct but open-hearted approach (“Have you noticed that…?”). The point is authenticity, not accusation. Avoidance appears kind but is usually self-protection dressed as politeness. Real kindness is truthful, curious, and anchored in goodwill.• Healthy communication requires noticing one’s own judgments and speaking from clarity rather than irritation. Accusatory statements trigger defense; open statements invite reflection. Space in conversation corresponds to space in the person’s inner life; when someone barrels ahead without pause, they are often afraid of what others might say.Leila later reported success using direct honesty with another friend, which deepened connection. This reinforced the idea that oneness appears when false stories and hidden resentments are cleared.The closing idea: forgiveness is always self-forgiveness. One never truly forgives “another,” because what is seen in others is one’s own projected guilt. Prayer is a vibrational state—gratitude without judgment. Forgiveness restores this state by releasing the belief in separation and the need for an enemy. When that belief drops, the world becomes harmless, unified, and safe, and one realizes that one has never been alone.#acim #forgiveness
Forgive Yourself - ACIM - Song of Prayer (00:51:00)
Jevon Perra led a discussion on "Forgiveness as an Ally to Prayer," explaining that forgiveness is the release of judgments and perceptions, which, unlike prayer, is temporary because it ends when one realizes oneness and steps out of the belief in a separate, defined self. Leila Fung and kristen shared personal examples of projecting judgments, with Leila Fung describing an issue with her child’s social interactions and kristen detailing frustration over a friend’s spending habits, which Jevon Perra analyzed as stemming from underlying fears of personal outcomes. The participants, including Soo Kim, explored the conflicting desires for belonging and uniqueness, and Jevon Perra offered Leila Fung practical, open-hearted communication strategies, learned from Jevon Perra's godmothers Caroline and Denise, for dealing with an overwhelming individual, stressing the importance of authenticity over avoidance.Forgiveness as an Ally to Prayer (Part Two: Forgiveness Introduction): Jevon Perra read a passage stating that forgiveness gives wings to prayer, making its ascent easy and swift, and that without it, one cannot rise above the bottom step of prayer. The text describes forgiveness as prayer's ally and sister in the plan for salvation, both supporting the individual, keeping their feet secure, and their purpose steadfast. While prayer is timeless, forgiveness has an end and becomes unneeded once the rising up is complete. However, in the present, forgiveness has a crucial purpose, and accomplishing it leads to redemption, transformation, and saving the world.The Temporary Nature of Forgiveness and the Role of Judgment: Jevon Perra explained that forgiveness, unlike its sister prayer, has an end because it is the release of judgments and perceptions. These judgments are the way individuals perceive things, assigning meaning, and often boxing people into categories like "friend or foe," with perceptions frequently flipping between the two categories, even when no actual change in the other person has occurred.Releasing Perception and Embracing the Current Moment: Jevon Perra discussed that the "perception game" involves giving up one's beliefs, admitting uncertainty, and acknowledging that one may not know what one truly wants. If this is the case, Jevon Perra suggested that the present situation might be perfect, as a "bigger game plan" with God and the universe is giving the individual exactly what they want. If an individual dislikes their companion, their actions, themself, or the world, Jevon Perra stated that the only necessary change might be letting go of the judgment and perception of how things "has to be," which is the essence of forgiveness.The End of Forgiveness and Realizing Oneness: Jevon Perra stated that the process of forgiveness ends when an individual steps out of the belief that they are a body and that their thoughts define them, because at that point they realize the reality of being connected, that "everything is okay and beautiful," and that their desires are already within them. Jevon Perra likened this state to being in a theater with Jesus, watching the entertaining drama of one's own life.Leila Fung's Personal Example of Releasing Judgment about her Child's Social Interactions: Leila Fung shared a personal anecdote about a conversation with her mother regarding her child's social life. Leila Fung initially expressed a judgment, thinking her child felt taken for granted by friends, but her mother stopped her, stating that she did not know the truth of the situation. Leila Fung’s child felt like a "last resort friend," being asked to hang out after others were asked, and then being upset when friends did not reply to her, especially after seeing the friends' stories online. Leila Fung explained that after talking with one of the parents, everything was clarified, and she realized she had created "a thousand stories" in her head instead of choosing to forgive, release judgment, and find out the truth. Jevon Perra noted that when it concerns "level one" issues (like one's children), it is easy to enter "attack mode" to protect "my people".Jevon Perra's Experience of High School Dynamics and Conflicting Desires at a Conference: Jevon Perra shared a personal story about a work trip to Vegas where they felt a "high school scene" dynamic at a conference due to a colleague named Aaron, who was handsome and popular, having a group of "groupies" around them. Jevon Perra described walking behind this group, feeling rejected and separate, and being torn between wanting to talk to people and simultaneously wanting to run away due to difficulty with small talk. Jevon Perra recognized this as a "crazy swirl of meaning" and acknowledged making up many worlds and conflicting desires, such as wanting to be in the conversation but immediately wanting to escape it once there.Misunderstanding Forgiveness and the Role of Guilt: Jevon Perra introduced the section "Forgiveness of yourself," reading that forgiveness has been profoundly misunderstood, often becoming a "scourge" or "curse" instead of a blessing, especially for those not engaging in the steps of prayer. Jevon Perra explained that forgiveness is initially obscure because salvation is not understood or sought, and what should heal is used to hurt. The discussion highlighted that guilt is often chosen over forgiveness because individuals view their "separate activities" as a means to push through suffering, with the ultimate guilt being the separation from God that creates the special, separate self they ultimately desire to preserve, fearing "complete annihilation" worse than death.The Origin of Guilt and the Cherishing of Separate Self: Jevon Perra stated that the initial guilt and darkness stem from the act of separating from God, which then leads to projecting that guilt onto other things, causing a constant search for badness. Overcoming this requires releasing one's identity as a separate self, which Jevon Perra noted is often portrayed as a horrifying concept in media, citing examples like the Borg in Star Trek and a show about a mind-joining alien virus where only a few individuals retain separate minds. Jevon Perra concluded that the separate self is cherished, even though it is the source of suffering and the initial guilt one tries to escape."Forgiveness to Destroy" and Holding onto Projected Meaning: Jevon Perra read a passage describing "forgiveness to destroy," which suits the world's purpose by overlooking "no sin, no crime, no guilt" that can be found and cherished. Jevon Perra differentiated between forgiveness (seeing others as the same as oneself) and "forgiveness to destroy," which twists the idea of forgiveness, perhaps by making someone feel judged while being forgiven (e.g., "I'm going to forgive you, but just know you did a bad thing") or by minimizing oneself to "put up with it". This destructive form of forgiveness values error, magnifying mistakes, picking out "all evil things," and viewing love as a "hateful thing of danger and of death".Contradictory Desires and the Ego's Promise: Jevon Perra discussed the conflicting desires inherent in the ego's world, such as wanting to be loved and accepted while remaining separate and special, or wanting one's children to be strong without experiencing suffering. Jevon Perra stated that these desires contradict each other, as struggle and difficulty are what build strength, and separation is inherently painful despite the desire to be unique. The ego promises that separation will work, encouraging one to "Seek but do not find".The Practice of Releasing Seriousness and Choosing the Face of Christ: Jevon Perra emphasized the importance of self-forgiveness by releasing one's own recurring difficulties and choosing peace by not seeing error and not making it real. Jevon Perra advised selecting the loving choice and forgiving sin by seeing "the face of Christ" instead. Jevon Perra noted that hating the son (others) is hating the father (God), because seeing the son is seeing oneself, and how one sees oneself determines how God is seen. Jevon Perra stressed not making things so "serious" because seriousness is linked to the belief that death is real. If death is not real, the seriousness can be removed, and the need to create an enemy can be released.The Illusion of Enemies and the Impact of Seriousness: Jevon Perra explained that the need for an enemy arises when seriousness, and thus the reality of death, enters the game, justifying attack, even toward loved ones, as an attempt to protect them (e.g., yelling at kids to stay away from the street). Jevon Perra connected the attack on loved ones to the belief in the reality of death and applied this logic to attacking strangers, which is enabled by the "belief that there is a stranger" in the first place, rather than seeing everyone as loved by God.kristen's Example of Projecting Financial Judgment: kristen shared an example of projecting judgment onto someone named China, expressing frustration over China's spending habits, lack of savings, and frequent trips and concerts. kristen admitted yelling at China because they fear China will "end up like me," indicating an underlying concern tied to personal experience. Jevon Perra acknowledged the situation, relating it to their own experiences with family members and money mismanagement. Jevon Perra analyzed that the anger stems from the projection that the family member's mismanagement will lead them to ask Jevon Perra for money, creating an unwelcome situation where Jevon Perra would feel compelled to either give money, which Jevon Perra dislikes, or reject them and feel guilty/angry.Shifting Perspective on Requests for Help: Jevon Perra suggested reframing the situation to see the request for money differently, such as feeling grateful that the family member views Jevon Perra as a safe person to ask for things, even if the answer remains "No".The Connection Between "Other" and "Enemy": Soo Kim questioned Jevon Perra's choice of the word "other" versus "enemy". Jevon Perra clarified that one must be an "other" to become an enemy, and explained the spectrum of oneness, from one's friend group to family, nation, and humanity, versus the instantaneous creation of an "other" who is unlike oneself and therefore acceptable to attack.The Conflict Between Belonging and Uniqueness: Soo Kim discussed with their therapist the "push pull" between wanting to belong and wanting to be unique or authentic. Jevon Perra affirmed that the solution is not to focus on one or the other, but to recognize that the conflict is "not real". Jevon Perra reiterated the importance of self-awareness by watching oneself, as illustrated by their conference experience of desiring popularity and then immediately wanting to escape the crowd when achieved.Leila Fung's Church Experience of Desiring and Escaping Popularity: Leila Fung shared a similar experience at her church, where she desired to be well-known and engage in conversations, but upon achieving it, realized that the conversations were unhealthy and the people seeking attention were primarily looking for someone to listen to their "horror story or their drama". Leila Fung concluded that the reality was not what they thought it was.The Dichotomy of Wanting and Escaping Fame/Popularity: Jevon Perra likened this dynamic to the desire for fame, where people eventually complain about lack of privacy and constant interruption. Jevon Perra admitted to having a "spiritual asshole" about activities they deem unworthy of their time, like talking about football. However, Jevon Perra noted that engaging in "openhearted intercourse with the supposed other" makes the "otherness" disappear, citing the example of the unity and openness found in a stadium of sports fans.The Conditional Nature of Oneness and Relationship Checklists: Jevon Perra discussed how the story of oneness (like the unity at a sports game) is often accompanied by rules and criteria that can lead to its demise when people add their own destructive storylines, such as breaking a TV when a team loses. Jevon Perra compared this to relationships, where people have a checklist of requirements, and if the partner breaks a rule, the relationship is instantly terminated, and the person is quickly deemed an enemy "worthy of attack".Leila Fung's Situation with a Talkative Person: Leila Fung asked for help regarding a situation with a "very nice person" who was overwhelming because she constantly shared stories of anger and complaining. Leila Fung found it difficult to breathe and had to excuse themself under false pretenses. The person's daughter was invited over, and Leila Fung was unsure how to interact with the person again, seeking a way to "benefit" or feel safe in the space.Jevon Perra's Strategy for Dealing with Judged Individuals: Jevon Perra acknowledged their own tendency to judge people as "unworthy to be with". Jevon Perra explained that they try to emulate their godmother, Caroline, who is an "open light," by advising people, but framing the advice so that it is about Jevon Perra's own behavior (e.g., "I found that in my life...") while secretly addressing the behavior that is being judged. This technique allows Jevon Perra to find the dynamic in themself, which lessens the annoyance, and often leads to profound conversations.A Direct Approach to Over-Talking: Leila Fung expressed that her difficulty with the person was due to the rapid, constantly jumping topics. Jevon Perra suggested a more direct approach learned from their godmother, Denise. Denise starts by asking, "Have you noticed that?" and then shares her observation (e.g., "Have you noticed that you don't stop enough to have other people share?"). Leila Fung liked this phrasing ("Other people can't participate") and felt it would be helpful because the person "scares a lot of people off".Choosing Authenticity Over Offense: Jevon Perra stressed that while the direct approach might offend, it is better to be authentic and open-hearted than to hate one's life or eventually explode in anger. Jevon Perra stated that one cannot control whether someone takes offense but can control their own intention.Truthfulness vs. Lying in Communication: Jevon Perra discussed the desire for truthfulness and asked, "How much truth do you want?". They pointed out that most people would say they want truth, but many implicitly desire a slight lie. Jevon Perra emphasized that if one wants others to be truthful, they should offer their own true feelings in return, but in a non-accusatory, open-hearted way. Accusatory language (e.g., "You are annoying," "You're a hypocrite") triggers defense and attack.Framing Observations as Personal Realizations: Jevon Perra suggested framing the feedback about over-talking by saying, "It's occurred to me, I don't know if you've noticed this, and maybe I'm off," and then using the metaphor of a story having periods and paragraphs (space). Jevon Perra suggested asking, "What's going on in your mind? Tell me about that. Why is there no space?". Jevon Perra explained that a lack of space to speak often stems from the speaker being afraid to hear what others will say, which can be directly asked.Practicing Healthy Communication and the "I Love You" Filler: Jevon Perra emphasized the need to be a "really strong person to have a soft, open heart and be that direct". Leila Fung noted that practicing this builds the muscle necessary for healthy communication, preventing bottling up feelings until one "blows up". Jevon Perra shared that their godmother Caroline uses "I love you so much" as a conversational filler, which recontextualizes the conversation and reminds the other person that Jevon Perra is a friend.Choosing Loving Conversation Over Avoidance: Leila Fung admitted they previously complained about the person to her spouse and used to cut people out. Jevon Perra questioned which action is kinder: avoiding the person or having an open-hearted, loving, and curious conversation. Jevon Perra argued that avoiding the person is "self-serving" and only has the appearance of being loving, which Jevon Perra termed "nice behavior" that is insincere and bothers them.The Benefits of Realness and Oneness: Leila Fung shared a success story of confronting another friend directly, which led to a positive and receptive response and an invitation to Thanksgiving. Leila Fung concluded that going directly to the problem and finding the truth allows for mutual seeing and a connection of oneness, recognizing that others are going through similar struggles.Forgiveness as a Vibrational State and Release of Separation: Jevon Perra read a concluding passage stating that just as prayer is for oneself, forgiveness is always given to oneself, and it is impossible to forgive another because one only sees their own sins in the "supposedly the other". Jevon Perra defined prayer as a "vibrational state" achieved when releasing judgments and beliefs of separation, which raises one's state and is akin to a state of gratitude. Jevon Perra explained that forgiving the other is actually releasing oneself from the belief of separation and the story of having an enemy. When one releases this idea, the whole world is freed because the "dynamic of bondage and enemy is just ideas that I have in my mind," freeing the individual to realize they have been safe with Jesus all along.
You can't take love - ACIM workbook Lesson 30 (01:04:27)
#acim #believeittoseeit Nov 10, 2025SummaryJevon Perra opened the meeting and Soo Kim read Lesson 30, emphasizing that vision sees what is already in the mind, while "sight" is derived from projection, and the idea of "God is in everything I see because God is in my mind" should be applied often, both externally and internally. The participants discussed the concept of projection, with Jevon Perra explaining how the perceived "density" of an idea, like the "solid barrier" of silence in a relationship with Carolyn, relates to how hard it is to dissipate, a dynamic that kristen and their partner also experience. Soo Kim noted that relationship dynamics are influenced by "feminine energy," and the group shared personal experiences with projecting inner beliefs onto others, such as Soo Kim's belief that men are the enemy and Leila Fung's self-labeling as the "angry black woman," while kristen discussed their projection of not making their partner happy. Jevon Perra explored how one's greatest strength can be a weakness, leading to patterns of attracting partners who overcome formidable barriers, and Leila Fung stressed the importance of humanizing one's enemies, while Soo Kim and Leila Fung shared personal examples of pushing partners away as tests. Jevon Perra concluded that true love is unconditional, not a trade, and requires lowering defenses, and they also advised kristen, who struggles with maintaining unconditional love for their daughter Britain, to focus on giving themselves grace and being aware of self-created patterns.DetailsLesson 30: God is in everything I see because God is in my mind Jevon Perra opened the meeting, noting Leila Fung’s absence due to Harper’s birthday party, before Soo Kim began reading Lesson 30. The lesson introduces a "new kind of projection," where one attempts to see what is already in their mind in the world, seeking to join with what they see rather than keeping it apart. Soo Kim stated this is the fundamental difference between vision and the usual way of seeing.Vision versus Sight Jevon Perra clarified that "vision" relates to seeing the world as Christ sees it, whereas "sight" is what is projected out, often derived from sin, guilt, and separation. Jevon Perra added that the idea of perception, sin, and guilt is what people project out because they "feel bad about" it.Application of the Idea Soo Kim outlined the application of the day's idea, suggesting repeating it often while looking around and recognizing that it applies to everything seen or potentially seen. Soo Kim further noted that real vision is not limited by concepts like near and far, nor does it rely on the body's eyes, as the mind is its only source. Practice periods were also recommended to apply the idea with eyes closed, looking within rather than without, as the idea applies equally to both.Ideas and Density Jevon Perra discussed how within and without are essentially the same, contrasting the perception that the physical world is "real" while ideas are merely "made up". They drew an analogy between the idea of something being physically dense, like a table, and its spiritual/vibrational density, suggesting that a denser, or slower-vibrating, idea like ice is harder to dissipate or "let go" than the lighter water vapor. Jevon Perra used the example of adding heat to ice to raise its vibration, moving it from solid to liquid to vapor, which relates to how things in life can move from solid barriers to formless states that do not impede one.Personal Barriers and Relationships Jevon Perra applied the concept of making things solid to personal barriers in relationships, citing their experience with their partner, Carolyn, where Carolyn's silence when upset becomes a painful, "deafening" solid barrier. Jevon Perra noted that when themself makes a problem real, they support its "solidness" and "permanence," making it worse. kristen related to this dynamic, noting it "sounds just like" them and their partner, considering it a "whole boundary thing".Gender Dynamics in Relationships Soo Kim suggested that women often control the flow of their family and relationships because it aligns with "feminine energy," which is linked to emotion and life force, while masculine energy is containment. Jevon Perra agreed, likening themself to the "fire pit" and Carolyn to the "fire," noting that when the "fire goes out it's like cold".De-solidifying Conflicts Jevon Perra discussed the importance of realizing a difficulty is "not real" to keep it fluid, which raises the frequency to "pass right through it". They shared that in their relationship, when one person is "unhinged," the other person makes the situation "not real," such as Carolyn laughing when Jevon Perra gets upset over "stupid stuff".
You Find What You Seek - ACIM (00:29:00)
You Find What You Seek - ACIM
Seeing God Everywhere - ACIM Lesson 26 (00:32:42)
SummarySoo Kim introduced the lesson "God is in everything I see," which explains why everything serves a universal purpose and is the foundation for vision. Jevon Perra explained that this implies everything is a projection or expression of God, and that individual perspective determines what is perceived as "good" or "bad." Jevon Perra also introduced two paths for personal progression, the "way of love" and the "way of wisdom," and discussed the concept of "Leela," the cosmic dance. The main talking points were the core idea, its application, the interconnectedness of all things, and different paths of spiritual progression.DetailsGod is in Everything I See Soo Kim introduces the lesson, "God is in everything I see," explaining that it clarifies why everything serves a universal purpose and why nothing is truly separate or meaningless. This idea is presented as the foundation for vision, though it may initially seem challenging or illogical (00:00:00).Application and Practice Soo Kim outlines the practice sessions, recommending six two-minute periods where participants repeat the idea and apply it to randomly chosen objects, emphasizing the importance of avoiding self-selection due to the idea's "wholly alien nature" (00:01:17). Jevon Perra connects this lesson to previous ones, suggesting it aligns with the concept of not knowing what one is looking at, as the purpose of the course is to remove obstacles to love, not to acquire it (00:02:44).God as Expression and Projection Jevon Perra explains that "God is in everything I see" implies everything is a projection or an expression of God (00:03:57). They clarify that God is not "in" individuals in a compartmentalized sense, but rather individuals exist within God (00:05:12). Jevon Perra also addresses the difficulty of accepting God's presence in seemingly negative events, reframing them as part of a larger, beneficial process, although acknowledging that such interpretations can be seen as "magic" (00:07:33).Perspective and Illusion Jevon Perra discusses how individual perspective determines what is perceived as "good" or "bad," illustrating this with an example of different reactions to the same person (00:09:37). They emphasize that everything experienced is part of one's own "story" or "movie," which is a projection from a single creative source, and that judgment is a constant human activity (00:10:38).Paths to Progression Jevon Perra introduces two paths for personal progression: the "way of love" (the way of the baby kitten, involving loving devotion and intention) and the "way of wisdom" (the way of the baby monkey, a harder path of understanding) (00:16:47). The left-hand path, associated with wisdom, involves domination and control, while the right-hand path, associated with love, involves letting go and forgiveness (00:17:43) (00:19:58). Jevon Perra clarifies that neither path is inherently good or bad, and individuals may engage in both, emphasizing the importance of avoiding rigidity in learning (00:20:58) (00:23:10).Cosmic Dance and Unfulfillment Jevon Perra introduces the concept of "Leela," the cosmic dance or divine play in Hindu philosophy, where the universe is a spontaneous expression of the divine (00:12:39) (00:14:35). Jevon Perra also highlights that feeling unfulfilled in life can be a "beautiful blessing," indicating an openness to different possibilities and a recognition that one's current existence might be infinitely smaller than what is possible (00:15:35).Masculine and Feminine Archetypes Soo Kim inquires about the connection between the kitten/monkey analogy and masculine/feminine archetypes, to which Jevon Perra clarifies that both masculine and feminine archetypes exist on each path (00:24:16). Jevon Perra explains that masculine archetypes tend to be more linear and goal-oriented, while feminine archetypes are more embracing, multi-tasking, open, accepting, and nurturing (00:25:18)."God is in Everything I See" Mantra Jevon Perra reiterates the core idea, "God is in everything I see," connecting it to the Sanskrit Gayatri chant, which expresses gratitude and recognition of God's omnipresent manifestation (00:26:40). Jevon Perra encourages applying this perspective to all encounters, even challenging ones, viewing them as expressions of God (00:29:14).Practice Schedule Soo Kim reminds Jevon Perra about the practice schedule, which includes six two-minute practice periods and repeating the idea at least once an hour. Jevon Perra suggests setting an hourly alarm as a reminder for the practice (00:31:08).Suggested next stepsSoo Kim will set up a Google Calendar invite for the practice periods and invite Jevon Perra.Soo Kim and Jevon Perra will practice the lesson by repeating the idea to themselves and then applying it to randomly chosen objects around them for six two-minute sessions.Soo Kim and Jevon Perra will repeat the idea at least once an hour, looking slowly about as they say the words to themselves.
You’re In An Advanced Forgiveness Class NOW - Acim text 19 (00:47:06)
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Attraction to death. ACIM 19 C (00:14:49)
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The body hides guilt - ACIM 19 (00:46:57)
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Guilt - fear’s main tool - Acim text 19.IV.A.i (00:46:32)
Guilt - fear’s main tool - Acim text 19.IV.A.i
Desire - the obstacle to peace ACIM 19 IV 1 (00:50:00)
Desire - the obstacle to peace ACIM 19 IV 1
Only Giving Up Attack Will Work - ACIM Workbook Lesson 23 (00:26:18)
#ACIM Workbook Lesson 23 Only Giving Up Attack Will Work
ACIM Text 1.1.27 (00:24:29)
ACIM Text 1.1.27
Thwarted Desire Creates Anger - Talks On God with David (00:34:38)
8/19/25thwarted desire leads to anger. - attachment to desire is suffering. - "nice" - total acceptance as god's provision. - a computer has operating system. humans have concepts. concepts change life experience. go from "they are attacking/harming/bugging me", to "they are doing the best they can, just like me."- computers have antiviral. humans have forgiveness. - judgments for humans like a virus for computer or a rock for a hose that clogs the flow. - humans think, "I'll hold my resentment until you, the offender change!" this doesn't work, cause it's not their activity that we suffer from, it's the resentment, it blocks the flow of spirit.- attachment to God breaks all other attachments, unless that attachment is on a concept of god, instead of the experience/presence of god. - a man falls in thorn bush, and uses the biggest thorn to pick all the others out. you start with he other biggest ones cause you much pain. but as you go you pull out the small ones you didn't notice at all at first. but in the end you even throw that first thorn out too that was your helpful too after done. concept/attachment of God is that thorn. - Desire doesn't fulfill, might as well let it go to experience God. - feels better to love than to fight/attack. - suffering is like a man standing in the purest river dying of thirst. what you need is close, not far away. - Practice gratitude! every one complaint do 3 gratitude.
Be right or be happy. ACIM Text 22 I 1-2 (00:32:30)
ACIM Text 22 I 1-2
Seeing sameness vs difference. ACIM Text 22 Intro (00:38:45)
Seeing sameness vs difference. ACIM Text 22 Intro
Guiltless World ACIM Text 1:13:1 (00:34:06)
Guiltless World ACIM Text 1:13 1
Acim Text 1:2 vs 3 brother Jesus. Devotion not Awe. Sameness not differences. (00:43:19)
Devotion not Awe. Sameness not differences.
Acim Workbook 12 Two pt 2 (00:24:57)
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Acim Workbook 12 Two (00:03:42)
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Acim Workbook 12 (00:25:35)
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Acim Workbook 8 (00:22:26)
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