Om Breaking the Rules: A Clinician's Guide to Treating OCD
Breaking the Rules is a show for mental health professionals designed to help you build confidence in treating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Effective treatment of OCD requires commitment, creativity and the recognition that things can sometimes get a little … messy. And on the show, you’ll hear from a range of leading professionals and learn everything there is to know about OCD and other related mental health concerns. This podcast is brought to you by Melbourne Wellbeing Group, a psychology practice based in Melbourne with a special focus on treating OCD. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Understanding the Link Between PTSD and OCD (00:24:47)
In this powerful and insightful episode, we explore the connection between PTSD and OCD, two conditions that often intersect in complex and misunderstood ways. The discussion dives into how trauma can shape obsessive-compulsive patterns, how compulsions can emerge as coping mechanisms, and why a trauma-informed approach is essential for effective treatment.The speakers unpack the challenges of working with co-occurring trauma and OCD, emphasizing flexibility, creativity, and compassion in clinical work. From ERP integration to managing dissociation and building client insight, this conversation offers a nuanced understanding of how clinicians can hold both trauma and OCD safely in the therapy room.💬 Key themes:• How trauma can trigger or intensify OCD symptoms• Compulsions as coping mechanisms for post-traumatic stress• Why ERP and trauma therapy can complement each other• The importance of trauma-informed care in OCD treatment• Recognizing and managing dissociation during therapy• Building client insight and resilience through psychoeducation• Empowering clinicians to work confidently with trauma and OCD🔖 Chapters00:00 Understanding PTSD and OCD02:55 The Interplay of Trauma and OCD05:42 Navigating Treatment Challenges08:53 Integrating ERP with Trauma Therapy11:55 Building a Trauma-Informed Approach14:54 Fluidity in Therapeutic Techniques17:49 Empowering Clinicians to Address Trauma23:44 Conclusion and Encouragement for Clinicians#PTSD #OCD #TraumaInformedCare #ERP #MentalHealthPodcast #TherapyTalk #ClinicianSupport #TraumaRecovery #OCDTreatment #CopingMechanisms #TherapyForTrauma Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Understanding Parental Accommodation in OCD: Breaking the Cycle (00:27:14)
In this insightful episode, we explore the concept of parental accommodation — the well-intentioned ways family members and loved ones may unknowingly reinforce OCD behaviours. Drawing from the research of Professor Eli Liebowitz (Yale) and real-world clinical experience, the hosts unpack how accommodation develops, why it’s so hard to stop, and how families can begin to make meaningful change.From checking, reassuring, or adapting routines “just to keep the peace,” to facing meltdowns, fear, or guilt when setting limits — this conversation goes deep into what it means to hold boundaries with compassion. You’ll hear about ERP therapy, the SPACE model, and practical ways clinicians and parents can work together to reduce accommodation and empower recovery.💬 Key themes:• What “parental accommodation” means and how it maintains OCD• Why well-meaning reassurance can make symptoms stronger• The difference between anxiety disorders and OCD• Supporting children, teens, and adults through distress safely• Helping parents tolerate their own emotions and model resilience• How reducing accommodation can rebuild connection and trust in families• Managing clinician fears around self-harm threats and safety planning🔖 Chapters00:00 Introducing the topic: Parental Accommodation and OCD02:00 What it means to accommodate and why we do it05:00 How everyday reassurance turns into OCD reinforcement08:00 Fear, meltdowns, and why it’s hard for families to stop accommodating11:00 Emotions, modelling, and learning to tolerate discomfort14:00 The SPACE model and clinician guidance17:00 Working with parental fear and client safety21:00 Reducing accommodation step-by-step25:00 Supporting families when clients resist change26:40 Why it works — even if the client isn’t in therapy#OCD #ERP #ParentalAccommodation #MentalHealthPodcast #TherapyTalk #FamilyTherapy #SPACEModel #OCDRecovery #ClinicianSupport #ParentingAndMentalHealth #EmotionalRegulation Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Perinatal Mental Health and OCD (00:29:28)
The perinatal period is one of the most vulnerable—and transformative—times in a parent’s life. In this episode, we explore the challenges of perinatal mental health, with a particular focus on OCD and how intrusive thoughts can impact new parents during this stage.Our speakers discuss the role of psychoeducation, the importance of therapeutic trust, and how clinicians can best support parents navigating overwhelming thoughts and fears. We also examine the value of bringing babies into therapy, collaborative care, and the crucial reminder that intrusive thoughts do not define someone’s ability to be a loving, capable parent.💬 Key themes:Why the perinatal period heightens vulnerabilityThe role of OCD and intrusive thoughts in early parentingUsing psychoeducation to normalize and reduce shameBuilding rapport so clients feel safe to share difficult thoughtsThe potential benefits of including babies in therapy sessionsCollaborative care and supporting parents holistically🔖 Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Perinatal Mental Health and OCD 02:50 Understanding Vulnerability in the Perinatal Period 05:47 Therapeutic Approaches for Clinicians 08:47 The Importance of Psychoeducation 11:45 Building Rapport and Trust with Clients 14:50 Managing Intrusive Thoughts in Therapy 17:49 Collaborative Care and Support Systems 20:51 Incorporating Babies in Therapy Sessions 23:45 Creating a Supportive Environment for New Parents #PerinatalMentalHealth #OCD #IntrusiveThoughts #NewParents #MaternalHealth #TherapyTalk #ParentingSupport #MentalHealthAwareness #Psychoeducation #ClinicianSupport Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Challenges of Clinical Practice (00:26:19)
This honest and reflective episode takes listeners inside the therapy room—where clinical learnings, vulnerability, and growth unfold in real time. Ms Catherine McGrath (Clinical Team Lead and Senior Psychologist) sharea hard-earned lessons from working with OCD clients using ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention), and open up about the emotional toll, missed opportunities, and the courage it takes to keep learning.From the power of self-compassion to the importance of holding space and involving parents in the therapeutic process, this conversation is a valuable reminder that clinicians don’t need to be perfect to be effective—they just need to keep showing up.💬 You’ll hear about:The real struggles clinicians face in ERP therapyWhy reflecting on mistakes leads to better outcomesHow client emotions are best met with presence, not perfectionThe impact of including parents in treatment plansWhy being kind to yourself is not optional—it's essential 🔖 Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Clinical Learnings 02:59 The Courage to Learn ERP 05:57 Missed Opportunities in Therapy 08:57 The Importance of Holding Space 11:47 Navigating Client Emotions 15:12 Involving Parents in Therapy 17:42 Reflecting on Hard Lessons 21:01 Self-Compassion in Clinical Practice 23:47 Summary and Closing Thoughts #ClinicalPractice #TherapyTalk #MentalHealthMatters #OCDTherapy #ERP #SelfCompassion #TherapistReflections #ClientEmotions #InvolvingParents #TherapyPodcast #MentalHealthProfessionals Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Unpacking Meta OCD: A Deep Dive (00:24:27)
In this episode, we explore the often misunderstood world of Meta OCD—a subtype of obsessive-compulsive disorder where the obsession becomes the diagnosis itself. Clients plagued by questions like "Do I really have OCD?" or "Is this the right treatment?" can become trapped in a mental loop that stalls progress and fuels perfectionism, self-doubt, and avoidance.We discuss how Meta OCD complicates therapy, disrupts client engagement, and challenges traditional treatment methods. From moral scrupulosity to obsessive intellectualization, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone working in mental health, or for those navigating OCD themselves.💬 Key insights:What is Meta OCD and how does it differ from other forms?How perfectionism and compulsions manifest in subtle waysWhy traditional OCD treatments may fall short for these clientsThe double-edged sword of reassurance in therapyHow to foster self-worth and celebrate small wins🔖 Chapters 00:00 Understanding Meta OCD 02:31 Defining Meta OCD and Its Implications 04:57 The Impact of Meta OCD on Treatment 07:59 Navigating Client Engagement and Reassurance 10:14 Perfectionism and Its Role in Meta OCD 12:24 The Challenge of Self-Identification 15:51 Recognizing and Addressing Meta OCD in Therapy 22:02 The Limitations of Manualized Treatments #MetaOCD #OCDRecovery #MentalHealthPodcast #TherapyTalk #Perfectionism #MentalHealthMatters #TherapistTools #ClientEngagement #ObsessiveCompulsiveDisorder #Scrupulosity #TherapyTechniques Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Navigating the Complexities of Health Anxiety and OCD (00:26:27)
In this insightful episode, we explore the tangled web of health anxiety, OCD, and death anxiety, unpacking how these psychological disorders often overlap and feed into each other. From obsessive thought patterns and compulsions to the deep-rooted fear of mortality, our speakers dive deep into the inner workings of anxiety disorders and what makes treatment so complex—and so crucial.💬 We discuss:The blurred lines between health anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorderHow death anxiety often lies beneath our fear of illnessWhy reassurance-seeking can trap us in cycles of fearCoping strategies and evidence-based treatment approachesHow therapists can help clients rediscover meaning beyond their mental health challengesWhether you’re a clinician, someone living with anxiety, or simply curious about the human mind—this conversation will challenge your understanding and offer a fresh perspective on mental wellness.🔖 Chapters00:00 Understanding Health Anxiety and OCD06:01 The Intersection of Health Anxiety and Death Anxiety12:03 The Complexity of Health Anxiety and OCD18:43 Treatment Approaches for Health Anxiety and OCD24:22 Living Beyond Anxiety: Finding Meaning in Life#HealthAnxiety #OCD #MentalHealthMatters #TherapyTalk #AnxietyTreatment #DeathAnxiety #CopingWithAnxiety #IntrusiveThoughts #MentalWellness #PsychologicalDisorders #AnxietyAwareness #MeaningBeyondAnxiety Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Complexities of ERP Therapy (00:30:29)
In this episode, we dive deep into the world of Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP)—the gold standard treatment for Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)—through a clinical and ethical lens.We unpack the delicate balance between challenging clients and protecting their autonomy, exploring how therapeutic trust, client consent, and collaborative exposure tasks shape the success of ERP. This conversation asks the tough questions: How far is too far in exposure therapy? And what happens when fear is no longer the enemy, but the doorway to healing?💬 Key themes:The role of informed consent in exposure therapyBuilding trust and safety in the therapeutic relationshipUnderstanding OCD beyond the symptomsWhy a collaborative approach is more effective than a prescriptive oneRecognizing when a therapist's anxiety enters the room too🔖 Chapters00:00 Introduction to ERP and Client Concerns02:46 Understanding OCD and Its Impact05:53 The Role of Trust in Therapy08:53 Navigating Exposure Tasks Collaboratively11:51 Ethics of Exposure Therapy14:54 Client Consent and Collaboration17:38 Managing Anxiety During Exposure20:45 The Importance of Client Agency23:44 Conclusion and Key Takeaways#ERP #OCDTreatment #ExposureTherapy #TherapyEthics #ClientConsent #MentalHealth #TherapyPodcast #TherapeuticTrust #CollaborativeCare #AnxietySupport #OCDRecovery #EthicalTherapy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The dangers of suicidal OCD and how to recognise it (00:26:26)
With suicide remaining a leading cause of death for people aged between 15-44 in Australia, clinicians in the OCD space need to ask the question: How do we differentiate between suicidal ideation and obsessive intrusive suicidal thoughts? In this episode, we discuss how to work with a client when they come to you with suicidal thoughts, why it is critical to take all mentions of suicide seriously, and how to determine whether a person with OCD is presenting with suicidal ideation consistent with wishes to die or whether it's intrusive suicidal OCD. This episode contains discussions about suicide. If you find this episode distressing and would like more support, please seek help from your local healthcare provider. If you're in Australia, you can call Lifeline on 13 11 14 at any time. Resources and links: Lifeline website Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
How “skinny-tok” is feeding eating disorder content to teenagers (00:35:37)
Felicity Phillips is the Founder of Weight of the World, a community-driven organisation supporting people with eating disorders and their carers through recovery. Weight of the World aims to provide peer support and education while challenging diet culture and promoting body neutrality. In this episode, Felicity shares her personal journey from pre-professional ballet to developing an eating disorder and ultimately finding recovery, explains the alarming rise of "skinny talk" on social media and how algorithms target vulnerable users within seconds, and reveals the powerful parallels between eating disorders and addiction that challenge common misconceptions about these complex mental health conditions. Resources and links: Weight of the World: A High Tea for ED Healing & Hope tickets Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Is it ROCD or is there a real problem in the relationship? (00:30:04)
It's normal to have doubts and questions about our relationships sometimes. Am I in love with my partner? Am I spending enough time with my parents? Are my friends mad at me? But what happens when those normal, passing concerns turn into an obsession? In this episode, we explain the difference between ordinary relationship concerns and relationship OCD (ROCD), how to identify when ROCD is showing up, and what the next steps are for helping clients manage it. Resources and links: Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Supporting new parents with OCD (00:32:52)
This is the final part of our two-part chat with Dr Bianca Mastromanno. In the last episode, Bianca discussed how she works with parents to process their childhood experiences and help them navigate parenthood themselves. In this episode, Bianca opens up about her personal experiences with parenting anxiety, digs into the challenges faced by parents with OCD, the impact of OCD on early parenthood, and how clinicians can support parents during the vulnerable early days of new parenthood. Resources and links: ‘Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts' by Karen Kleiman ‘Matrescence' by Lucy Jones ‘The Magic Years” by Selma H. Fraiberg Dr Bianca Mastromanno's website Dr Bianca Mastromanno on Instagram Dr Bianca Mastromanno on LinkedIn Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Why revisiting a parent’s own childhood can help them as a new parent (00:28:06)
Dr Bianca Mastromanno is a Clinical Psychologist who works extensively in the perinatal space. Bianca uses a trauma-informed, evidence-based approach to support parents and children living with mental health concerns. In this episode, Bianca explains how she works with parents with OCD or other mental health challenges to explore and process their own childhood experiences to help them navigate the emotional challenges of parenthood. She also reflects on what she's learnt from the parents she works with and from her own experiences as a parent. This episode is part one of our two-part chat with Bianca. Keep an eye out for part two, where Bianca digs into how to better support parents with OCD through their pre and post-natal periods. Resources and links: Dr Bianca Mastromanno's website Dr Bianca Mastromanno on Instagram Dr Bianca Mastromanno on LinkedIn Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The value of self-awareness, trust, and non-accommodating support (00:26:08)
This is the final part of our two-part chat with Lindsay and Emily Stetzer. In the last episode, Lindsay and Emily opened up about their early experiences with OCD and how their lived experiences led them to create Presently Bracelets. In this episode, Lindsay and Emily discuss the household dynamics of living in a family with OCD, the significance of non-accommodating support, and the role of exposure therapy, self-awareness, and trust in the recovery process. Resources and links: Presently Bracelets website Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
How these sisters turned their OCD into a thriving jewellery business (00:26:10)
Lindsay and Emily Stetzer are sisters living with OCD and the Founders of Presently Bracelets. Presently Bracelets offer a range of bracelets to help you navigate intrusive thoughts and embrace the present moment. In this episode, Lindsay and Emily share their individual experiences with OCD and treatment, what helps them between sessions, and what they think therapists need to know from the perspective of someone with OCD. They also share how the phrase “my thoughts are passing clouds” led to the creation of Presently. Resources and links: Presently Bracelets website Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
How clinicians can provide better OCD treatment (from someone with OCD) (00:35:34)
This is the final part of our two-part chat with Chrissie Hodges. In the last episode, Chrissie shared her early experiences with OCD before embracing the challenges of OCD peer support and advocacy work. In this episode, Chrissie reflects on her experiences with OCD treatments and what clinicians can and should be doing better. She also emphasises the importance of acknowledging the impacts of different OCD themes on the individual and how some themes might result in more trauma and stigma than others. Resources and links: Chrissie Hodges' website Chrissie Hodges on YouTube Chrissie Hodges on Instagram OCD Gamechangers website Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Peer-to-peer: A frank conversation about OCD (00:27:26)
Chrissie Hodges is an OCD Advocate, Peer Support Specialist, and Author of ‘Pure OCD: The Invisible Side of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder'. For over a decade, Chrissie has worked closely with individuals living with OCD, as well as providing training to government agencies to enable them to better support people with OCD. In this episode, Chrissie shares her powerful personal journey with OCD starting from age eight, describes how religious scrupulosity and emetophobia shaped her early experiences and opens up about her path from struggling in silence to becoming a prominent voice in the OCD community through peer support and advocacy work. Resources and links: Chrissie Hodges' website Chrissie Hodges on YouTube Chrissie Hodges on Instagram OCD Gamechangers website Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Helping someone with a hoarding disorder takes more than throwing away their stuff (00:24:11)
Is tough love the right approach for people struggling with hoarding disorders, or is there another way? In this episode, we explain how to recognise hoarding disorder and how it differs from having a collection or even hoarding-themed OCD. We explore how to navigate the intense shame experienced by people with a hoarding disorder or hoarding-themed OCD and how to sensitively and responsibly provide intervention. Resources and links: Celin discussing hoarding on The Conversation Hour on ABC Radio Melbourne Wellbeing Group enquiry page Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
How to support mothers with mental health difficulties (00:21:52)
This is the final part of our two-part chat with Emily Crawford. In the last episode, Emily highlighted the importance of building supportive networks for mothers and the challenges mothers experience before and after birth. In this episode, Emily discusses how to support mothers with mental health difficulties throughout pregnancy and after birth and how to provide interventions to mothers who are struggling. Resources and links: Nest Psychology website Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Why strong support networks are vital for mothers throughout and after pregnancy (00:25:59)
Returning guest Emily Crawford is the Principal Psychologist at Nest Psychology and has more than 20 years of experience as an Educational and Developmental Psychologist supporting adults, children, adolescents, and their families with various mental health issues (including OCD). She is also a 'Tuning in to Kids' facilitator and a mother of four. In this episode, Emily discusses the postnatal period for mothers and opens up about her experiences after childbirth. She explores the challenges mothers encounter before and after birth and the importance of supporting mothers and building communities so mothers can care for their babies. This episode is part one of our two-part chat with Emily. Keep an eye out for part two, where Emily shares how to help mothers experiencing mental health difficulties in the prenatal and postnatal periods. Resources and links: Nest Psychology website Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group OCD training workshops by Dr Celin Gelgec OCD focused supervision for healthcare professionals with Dr Celin Gelgec Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Tackling ambivalence with commitment, creativity, and curiosity (00:19:47)
We’re continuing our discussion about ambivalence. Ambivalence is when a client feels conflicted about treatment, either consciously or subconsciously, and can throw up stopping blocks in treatment. In the last episode, we looked at how to spot ambivalence and tackle it when you see it. In this episode, we discuss the importance of motivational interviewing in exploring patient emotions and understanding how OCD plays into a patient’s identity. We also examine the role of patience and adaptability in treatment and how critical it is to address ambivalence through commitment, creativity, and curiosity. Resources and links: Million Steps for OCD Awareness Walk information Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Identifying ambivalence and how to tackle it (00:22:20)
What happens when a client wants to change but doesn’t know where to start, doesn’t want to do the work, or is in some other way conflicted? Ambivalence. Ambivalence is normal during therapy but can hinder a client’s progress if left unaddressed. In this episode, we discuss some telltale signs of ambivalence in clients, understanding where ambivalence comes from, and how to work through it when it happens. Resources and links: Webinars, books, and training by Melbourne Wellbeing Group Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The crucial role of parents in treating anxiety and OCD in children (00:25:09)
This episode is the final part of our two-part chat with Natasha Daniels. Natasha is a Therapist specialising in anxiety and OCD in children and created AT Parenting Survival to help the parents of children living with anxiety and OCD. In our last episode, Natasha shared how she got into working with children, how to adapt ERP for young people, and the importance of rapport, fun, and play in therapy. In this episode, Natasha opens up about why she loves working with the parents of children with OCD and anxiety. She explains how she works with parents and shares her helpful tips for helping kids with OCD and anxiety while they’re at school. Resources and links: AT website AT Parenting Survival School website AT Parenting Survival School on Instagram Natasha Daniels on YouTube Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Building rapport and having fun is crucial for treating children with OCD and anxiety (00:28:55)
Natasha Daniels is a Therapist specialising in anxiety and OCD in children. Natasha is the creator of the AT Parenting Survival website to provide parents with advice for helping their children living with anxiety and OCD. Natasha has drawn on two decades of experience to create a YouTube channel and a podcast and has also written several books. In this episode, Natasha reveals what drew her to working with children and teens with anxiety and OCD, as well as their parents. She discusses how to adapt ERP for younger clients, the significance of building rapport, and how to incorporate playfulness and creativity into therapy. This episode is part one of our two-part chat with Natasha. Keep an eye out for part two, where she’ll focus on one of her biggest passions: working with the parents of children with OCD and anxiety. Resources and links: AT website AT Parenting Survival School website AT Parenting Survival School on Instagram Natasha Daniels on YouTube Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Perfectly imperfect: Spotting perfectionism in OCD treatment and how to address it (00:24:50)
Perfectionism. It’s a complicated trait that shows up a lot when working with OCD. It can present in a range of ways and can look like self-loathing, anger, people-pleasing, or even a strong sense of doubt and uncertainty in clients. In this skills episode, we dig into how perfectionism can manifest in a client, how it might present in a session, and how to address it when it does. Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
How to find the right balance in discomfort during ERP (00:25:19)
This is the final part of our chat with Associate Professor of Psychology and convenor of the clinical psychology program at the University of Melbourne, Dr Brett Deacon. In our previous conversations with Brett, he explained safety behaviours, accommodation behaviours from family and clinicians, and how accommodating behaviours that reduce discomfort can limit the efficacy of treatment for clients with OCD. In this episode, Brett expands on how clinicians can balance moving too quickly or too slowly in ERP. He also explains how he uses one simple and kind of gross demonstration in the classroom to teach future clinicians the importance of being bold and unafraid when working with clients. Resources and links: Purchase ‘Exposure Therapy for Anxiety: Principles and Practice’ here Dr Brett Deacon at the University of Melbourne Dr Brett Deacon on LinkedIn Connect: https://www.melbournewellbeinggroup.com.au/ http://www.drcelingelgec.com.au/ This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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