Cider Voice 60 - The Broome Farm Orchard Walk (01:28:39)
Join the Broome Farm Orchard Walk audio story. This is a narrative discussion between Albert, our regular host, and his father Mike and his brother Martin, of the Johnson family at Ross-on-Wye Cider & Perry Company in Broome Farm, Herefordshire. This is the complete audio story of their new orchard walk - a free to access walk with a choice of a 2.5km or 5km route, with 27 information signs, two picnic areas, an orchard library, a bike rack, and fully signposted directional signs. The audio for this episode was recorded and edited by neighbour and friend of the farm, Paul Kennedy. This episode is meant to be enjoyed whilst on the walk, but it may work for you as a way to transport yourself to our farm from whereever you discover this podcast!
Cider Voice 59 - The Fireblight Menace with Dr Kathryn Bruce (00:55:32)
With the brothers Wells conspicuous by their abscence (are they out there right now, spreading fireblight?), Albert has an opportunity to talk to Dr Kathryn Bruce, a social historian of horticulture and plant science who recently completed her PhD at the University of St Andrews. Kathryn's PhD had the title "The Fireblight Menace: Knowledge communities and their response to crop disease in the Anglo-world, 1880-1939", which attracted Albert's fascination as rapidly as new growth in a Gin Pear tree attracts Erwinia amylovor.
Don't forget to contribute your data, tasting notes and experiences to ourpomona.org
If you are an expert on fireblight, get in touch! We'd love to spread more awareness and knowledge about dealing with this disease.
As a point of reference, the British pear varieties Albert has observed to be resistant to fireblight appear to be: Thorn, Hendre Huffcap, Yellow Huffcap, Red Pear, Butt, Winnal's Longdon, Taynton Squash, Hellen's Early and Barland. The varieties that are susceptible are Gin Pear, Moorcroft, White Bache, Oldfield, Green Horse, Turner's Barn, Bartestree Squash, Dead Boy, and Blakeney Red.
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Cider Voice 58 – Pommeaus, Mistelles and fortified ciders, with James Forbes (00:49:41)
Whilst Albert heads to Westminster, Justin and Adam recruit Little Pomona's James Forbes to chat about all things fortified in the cider category.
James has just brought out his first Mistelle, Fomo (even if he's forgotten it today) and we learn how an 'alarming' coloured cider led to one of the most hyped releases of the last couple of years. Just and Adam are both card-carrying fans of all things fortified, and we chat about styles, approaches, ways to drink them and fortifieds with food.
Plus Justin has hosted another cider supper club, this time with a Japanese-inspired vegan menu, Adam has unexpectedly won an award for Perry: A Drinker's Guide, and we learn how to tell the difference between fermentation and malolactic fermentation using just a bowl of Rice Krispies.
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Cider Voice 57 – An anxiety pulling-up of my socks, with Martin Johnson (01:07:24)
An anxiety pulling up of my socks, with Martin Johnson
We continue to mine our families for quality cider content, and this time it’s Albert’s turn to provide a relative, in the shape of his fellow @rosscider maker, @yewtreepeterstow supremo and, coincidentally, brother, Martin Johnson.
We discuss the running of a perfect cider pub, and everything Martin has done to transform the Yew Tree into just that. Storage and service of cider, how to get drinkers to give new things a try and bringing cider together with food. (Stand by for a wet sandwich supper club now that Albert has rightly fallen for the mighty Italian Beef).
Featuring a swathe of Broome Farm ciders as you’d expect, we test Albert’s knowledge of his own batches and discover just how hard we can plug Ross-on-Wye.
Cider Voice 56 – The Plight of the Hapless Cidermaker, with Caroline Wells (01:20:38)
The plight of the hapless cidermaker, with Caroline Wells
For absolutely definitely 100% the first time ever on the show, we reveal that Justin and Adam have started their own cidermaking project, Three Wells Cider, and we’re joined by their business partner, cidermaking colleague and fellow Wells, Caroline, to tell you all about it.
From being accidentally compelled to become craft drinks producers after buying a pair of blundstones to dodging storms, breaking mills, grey-faced conversations about hose fittings and vanning cider from Bromyard to Reading, this episode became part group therapy, part exposé of the lies propagated by the minimum intervention movement.
Listen along and enjoy the story of Three Wells Cider’s first ever vintage.
Bonus ciders from Hjulsjö, Find & Foster and Little Pomona.
Cider Voice 55 – Liberty to Cider, with Elisha Mason (01:03:58)
Liberty to Cider – with Elisha Mason
We take an apple-tinted journey into the past with our guest this week, Elisha Mason, @museumofcider Archives and Collections Officer.
Leading us into the mysterious (and, apparently, heavily haunted) archives and cellars of the magnificent Museum of Cider in Hereford, Elisha talks us through British Cider Riots, and how they inspired revolution in America, dream teapots and finding an unexpected foot in a box (different museum…)
Continuing to answer the big questions we ponder who would be the best starship captain amongst historical pomologists and orchardists, ask what an ingenio is and string out the great Cider Voice debate: Bulmer’s Norman vs Thorn Pear. Also, is Adam secretly the Scrooge of Wassailing (and can he even pronounce it?)
We loved recording this episode with Elisha. Drop us a line at albert@cidervoice.com with your suggestions of people we should speak to next, or just to talk all things cider and perry.
Ciders by @aldesider @tomolivercider @rosscider
Cider Voice 54: The Pomes Championship Sort-of-Christmas-Special (01:49:08)
After receiving an eloquent letter of encouragement from one of our 12 listeners, we re-run our extremely thorough and official tournament for the greatest cider apple or perry pear.
Bigger, better, with no apples off the table and two bonus judges in @helenannesmith and @ratchellle, this is Pome Total War, with apples and pears judged on every factor – taste, yield, vibes, name, treacherousness and level of freckles.
Who’ll triumph in Bulmers Norman vs Thorn II? Just how perfect is Porter’s Perfection? What’s the proper pronunciation for Plant de Blanc? And just who is ’T.O.’?
Discover the answers to some of these questions and more, as well as the identity of the true greatest cider apple or perry pear. Plus drinks by @palmers_upland_cyder, @littlepomona and (shockingly) @rosscider
Cider Voice 53 – I am very excited about the future of cider – cider in Japan with Lee Reeve (00:41:59)
Once again we dive into the inspiring international scene, this time learning all about cider in Japan thanks to our guest Lee Reeve, @inciderjapan.
We talk through Japan’s cider beginnings in the 1950s, its modern movement that began around 2017 and the different styles, makers, places and inspirations behind modern Japanese cider.
From French-style keeves to English bittersweets, from Fuji apples to wild indigenous varieties found in the mountain forests, there’s so much going on here to explore.
Lee also talks us through his journey importing the best of English, French, American, Norwegian and Australian cider to Japan, and how cider is gaining a foothold in a country with such a strong and historic drinks tradition.
Shoutouts to producers including @kamoshika_cidre @vinvie.jp @sonofthesmithhardcider and @marukame_farm_cidery
Thanks for all the messages you’ve been sending – keep them coming to albert@cidervoice.com. We love hearing from the 12 of you.
Cider Voice 52 – Superb Human Adventure – with Virginie Thomas (00:50:34)
It’s about time we dug into one of the world’s biggest cider cultures – and the only only outside the UK with a large concentration of bittersweet and bittersharp cider apples – France.
So who better to catch up with than Virginie Thomas of @bouscule_tes_sens – author, consultant, advocate and trainer?
We cover all things French cider, chat through some of the similarities in how the drink’s perceived in the UK and France, then talk about writing a world cider guide during a pandemic, doing tastings with blindfolds on, the mighty crêpe and Brittany’s new cider route.
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Cider Voice 51 - I do recall now, it is Excellent - Hereford Applefest Preview 2024 with Paul Stevens (00:42:10)
Cider Voice 50 – 15 different Kingston Blacks – Darlene Hayes (00:57:52)
We level up once again this week as we welcome international cider dignitary Darlene Hayes to Cider Voice.
One of the most important and influential figures in the American and now global cider revolution, Darlene has played a central role in expanding cider education, especially through the Certified Cider Guide and Certified Pommelier Programmes.
We talk through Darlene's introduction to cider, burrow down a rabbit hole of varietal curiosity (with a shoutout to Albert's new Sherrington Norman) and then chat all things Pommelier following the course's worldwide expansion.
If you want the inside track on these new cider qualifications; what they are, how they were put together, what's involved in taking them – and how to avoid any obvious slipups, this is the episode for you. Plus a special behind the scenes glimpse at the shape that these cider education programmes might take next.
Cider Voice 49 – The best podcast in the cider game – Martyn Goodwin-Sharman (01:31:01)
With Albert on Freya-watch, Adam and Justin decide to celebrate a year of Cider Voice by learning how to actually podcast, and chatting to our secret producer, Neutral Cider Hotel's Martyn Goodwin Sharman, aka @cidershit
Cue a wide-ranging chat with someone who's watched the aspirational cider revolution first-hand for almost a decade. Everything from Daniel Craig ice lollies to cider tie-die t-shirts, not really caring about varieties (sorry Albert) and the question of how to get people to care about cider.
Turns out all we need to take the next step in podcasting is a celebrity presenter, six-hour recording sessions, a pandemic and a few convincing impressions from Justin. Cheers Martyn!
Albert makes cider @rosscider
@adamhwells writes about it @cider_review
Justin is getting dangerously knowledgeable @justinwellsjustin
Cider Voice 48 – I am obsessed with creating cider content (00:58:03)
It's been a year since we relaunched Cider Voice and to celebrate, Albert's holding a massive festival at the farm and launching 14 special edition ciders.
In this episode we run through all the festival releases, from the last of a particular perry pear ever to be grown on the farm to an apple that isn't called Hagloe Lobster. Has Albert been coerced into releasing a perry by Adam? And is Ross-on-Wye just becoming a sea of acid.
Have a listen to discover this year's full festival release rundown, and if you haven't booked your festival ticket yet, hie thee to rosscider.com
Cider Voice 47 – The Unbearable Heaviness of Toil (01:15:26)
‘The wobbler’. ‘The shakey shakey’. ‘Ladder method’. ‘Plank method’. ‘Squolch’. What does it all mean? With harvest rapidly incoming, Albert and the Cousins Wells sit down to discuss the vital topic of Toil.
The physical business of making cider is, we feel, much underdiscussed. But between Adam’s leather jacket and Justin’s ‘hands more suited to picking up cake’ we feel we’re the people to do it.
From trees that are laughing at you, to trailers that won’t tip their apples, splishy-splashy filth water and the squolch bucket, every facet of toil is covered. Plus has it turned out that the route to big sales is dressing in a medieval cowl?
In other plugs, Ross Fest is round the corner, Justin’s becoming a regular at the brilliant Joyce and The London Cider House and it’s definitely not too early to buy Adam’s book Perry: A Drinker’s Guide as a Christmas present for everyone you know.
Albert toils @rosscider
@adamhwells spoils
@justinwellsjustin recoils
Bonus cider this week from @evescidery
Cider Voice 46 – Stunned Silence, No Notes – Australian cider with Camilla Humphries (00:57:06)
The team pull a late one for an extra exciting episode with a serious time difference as we catch up with Camilla Humphries (@camillas_crush) cider maker, expert and advocate in Mornington Peninsular, Australia.
We see almost none of Australia’s amazing cider scene here in the UK so Camilla gives us the full rundown from climate to apples to the inspirational Cider Australia (@cideraustralia) movement.
We also learn about her travels around the cider regions and orchards of the world on a research trip for the Churchill Trust, and how her learnings have been applied by Cider Australia in their advocacy and research.
Read Camilla’s report here: https://www.churchilltrust.com.au/project/to-investigate-orchard-growing-systems-for-improving-australian-cider-production/
Albert pulls all-nighters @rosscider
@adamhwells moonlights @cider_review
Justin burns the candle @justinwellsjustin
Cider Voice 45 - The Soul of the Apple in Liquid Form - Eleanor Leger from Eden Specialty Ciders (01:06:04)
The team welcome a transatlantic cider rock star to the pod for this episode as they're joined by Eleanor Leger, co-founder and owner of Vermont's @edenciders
We talk about all things ice cider and how Eden experiment with this magnificent dessert cider style. Plus the economics of fine cider, and how Eden have diversified over the years whilst staying true to their full juice roots.
Having experimented with British varieties we talk about the different flavours they produce in American terroirs, which leads us to a discussion of the new frontier of propagating wild American apples for cider.
Finally things get extra serious as Eleanor demonstrates the massive impact that climate change has had on not only her orchards, but the very styles of cider she can make.
An absolutely brilliant chat with one of the most significant figures in aspirational cider.
Albert is lightly chilled @rosscider
@adamhwells cools off @cider_review
Justin breaks the mill @justinwellsjustin
Cider Voice 44 - It's a magnum ... in a bag - Beatrix Swanson (01:08:38)
It's the 44th episode of Cider Voice and in Albert's absence thanks to his exciting new role we have a huge question: do we finally have a 13th listener? To celebrate we're joined by whisky writer and new Cider Review contributor Beatrix Swanson.
Bea talks to Justin and Adam about growing up in Germany's apfelwein country and how she joined the cider community. We extol the virtues of the bagnum and ponder whether cider and perry might be the ultimate drinks for Gen Z.
Since, like all the best people, Bea's come to cider from whisky, we also turn our attention to the vital question of the perfect whisky and cider pairings, whilst Justin worries that he might need a bigger bottle rack.
A really fun episode chatting to one of the most exciting new voices in cider.
Albert has a new job @rosscider
@adamhwells has a new whisky @cider_review
Justin has a new mouthful of pasta @justinwellsjustin
Cider Voice 43 - 60 Bottles is Macro - James Finch of Chapel Sider (00:58:57)
Well, it's another Albertless episode, but that doesn't hold Justin and Adam back from interviewing the once and future Cider Critic James Finch of Chapel Sider and Cider Review fame!
They discuss Chapel Sider's origin and future, James' love of orchards, and the vicissitudes of cider writing and advocacy, along with a bit of a retrospective on Cider Review and how it came about. Not to mention the legendary Fine Cider Fridays 👀
What's next on the radar for James? Will Justin keep asking questions he asked ten minutes ago? Will Adam survive the brutal summer heat of Ireland? And, most importantly, will the guys avoid the Wrath of Albert by managing to wrap in less than an hour?!
Find out at CiderVoice.com, or wherever you pod!
Albert is on paternity leave @rosscider
adamhwells in spoiling in the heat @cider_review
Justin is forgetting what he's asked @justinwellsjustin
Cider Voice 42 - The British Pome Championships (01:22:22)
With the whole CV team back together again we thought about doing an earnest and serious conversation about apple and pear varieties. But with all the sport on we changed our mind and turned it into a knockout tournament to discover the greatest (British) cider apple or perry pear of them all.
Pitting 32 contenders against each other, Adam tasks Justin and Albert with finding the ultimate.
Thorn vs Bulmers Norman?
Egremont Russet vs Yellow Huffcap?
Moorcroft vs Kingston Black?
Stoke Red vs Butt?
Which will be left standing at the end?
Get ready for an extreme fund of sporting metaphors:
What are the Gareth Southgate and Andy Murray of perry pears?
Who is the Joe Root of Cider Voice?
Which matchup is like Hamilton winning Silverstone for the 9th time?
And which round do our judges just want to dispense with?
Featuring Justin’s pomological insights like ‘Coppy sounds a bit like cuppy’ and Albert’s true feelings on Bisquet, the biggest question of all is will the final go to penalties? Want to know the greatest apple or pear? You'll have to listen.
Shoutout to Swedish cidermaker Hjulsjö 103
Albert's the midfield general @rosscider
@adamhwells has a vicious backhand @cider_review
Justin's dug in @justinwellsjustin
Cider Voice 41 - My Chair is Collapsing! - Felix Nash of Fine Cider Company (00:57:26)
In this episode Justin and Adam demand the finest ciders available to humanity and they want them here and they want them now, so who better to speak to than Felix Nash, founder of the Fine Cider Company.
We talk the 10-year development of Fine Cider, the ways Felix has found to bring restaurants round to the concept, parallels with and differences to fine wine, the new Fine Cider Shop in London and the importance of getting the public on board via events like the upcoming Stockport Cider Salon.
Shoutouts primarily to tomoliverscider
Albert makes fine cider @rosscider
@adamhwells writes fine words @cider_review
Justin's feeling fine @justinwellsjustin
Cider Voice 40 - I've got to order a new pair of trousers - Tom Oliver of Oliver's Cider and Perry (01:18:24)
With Adam still MIA, Justin and Albert make it all the way to the top, sitting down with the godfather of aspirational cider, Mr Tom Oliver @tomoliverscider.
Drawing on Tom's wealth of knowledge and abundant wit we chat adventures in America, ordering everything on the menu and the increasing importance of aspirational cider on keg.
As a kindred Herefordshire cidermaker Albert and Tom compare notes on the importance of the stamp of the maker, the recent inaugural edition of Cider School, pride in Herefordian produce, collaboration and the upcoming Apple Fest.
A privilege, as ever, to talk to one of cider's most important characters.
Ciders by @chapel_sider and @hudsonvalleyfarmhousecider
Albert makes cider @rosscider
Justin leads tastings @justinwellsjustin
Adam can't think of a single Tom Oliver pun @cider_review
(Ed: why didn't he just write, Adam wants some more @cider_review?)
Cider Voice 39 - I Missed The Train Because of Sneezing! - Alison Taffs, The Hop Inn, Hornchurch (01:19:25)
Absolute cider royalty comes to the pod this week as Justin and Albert are joined by Alison Taffs, head honcho at multi-award-winning might-as-well-keep-the-trophy cider pub The Hop Inn.
We talk about Alison and Justin's shared background as drama students at Mountview, and how that armed them to become tasting host extraordinaires, we touch on managing alcohol intake when working in the drinks industry and Alison schools us on what makes good hospitality.
Only momentarily distracted by Justin looking up directions to the Hop Inn on his phone, we learn how to build the ultimate cider list as a pub and how gaining confidence with tasting notes can help drinkers, producers and hospitality staff.
Ciders by @gospel_green
Albert lords the land @rosscider
Adam hops in @cider_review
Justin is on heavy antihistamines @justinwellsjustin
Cider Voice 38 – 'You're Stealing My Show Now' – Seminal Ciders 4: Natalia Wszelaki (Cider Explorer) (01:04:26)
In the latest instalment of 'Seminal Ciders' Adam catches up with someone who's been writing about cider even longer than he has – Natalia of @ciderexplorer.
Based in Germany, Natalia's been covering the continental cider scene since 2017, shining a light on central European cider cultures as well as countries whose cider doesn't always get a spotlight.
We talk about the cider that got her started, the current state of German cider, the magical event that is @CiderWorld, the first cider she ever gave full marks, the bottle that persuaded her perry could be good and more!
Featuring ciders from Poland, Germany, Austria, France and Croatia: @cydr_ignacow @gutshof_kraatz @blakstoc @Jerome.forget61 @kertelreiter_cider @buzdovan_craft_cider
Albert explores apples @rosscider
@adamhwells charts words @cider_review
Justin may be some time @justinwellsjustin
Cider Voice 37 - Everybody has a river in their garden with loads of otters - Gabe Cook, The Ciderologist (01:37:17)
Albert and Adam sit down to chat with Gabe Cook aka The Ciderologist on everything from his origins in the cider world, to the state of bittersweet cider, to education in cider and perry and the way forward. Part trip down memory lane and part assessment of the current British cider scene.
Join Gabe's substack: https://theciderologist.substack.com/
Sign up for the Certified Cider Professional Programme here: https://www.theciderologist.com/pages/certified-cider-professional-programme
BBC Natural World: Wye, Voices from the Valley (2007).
Albert grows weird apples at @rosscider
@adamhwells assesses weird apples for @cider_review (and has written a book!)
Justin drinks the weird apples (@justinwellsjustin)
Cider Voice 36 - Pour tannin directly into my mouth (00:52:45)
Albert’s away again so it all goes off the rails – Adam’s distracted by how good a cider is and Justin’s gone for a sauna.
But then we rein it back in and chat about Justin’s first experience leading a cider and perry tasting – ‘an introduction to Herefordshire.’
We talk what he served, what he learned, preferences and preconceptions and and Gin Pear/Cookie Dough Affogato.
Planning a tasting with some of your own friends? This is the episode for you.
Albert toils @rosscider
@adamhwells spoils @cider_review (and has written a book!)
Justin broils @justinwellsjustin
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