A podcast from zeroheight.Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.
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Do our design systems give new joiners anxiety? (00:32:55)
Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they ...
What will happen in design systems in 2026? (00:39:41)
Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they ...
What's with the emotional baggage with design systems? (00:37:35)
Design system folks seem to be prone to burnout, arguments, and generally feeling underappreciated within their organizations. What makes design systems folks so prone to being loaded with additional ...
Are we reducing complexity with design systems?? (00:32:01)
Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they ...
Episode 44 - Should we care about consistency? (00:46:53)
Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they ...
Are we finally at the point of contextual documentation? (00:39:44)
Season 2 Episode 1 Design Systems WTF is the fortnightly podcast where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single ques...
Can you actually measure the ROI of a component? (00:24:19)
Selling the value of your design system to folks who don't necessarily understand it is a difficult and thankless task. But are we trying to sell in the right things? Is it possible to put the value o...
Should designers know how to code? (00:29:45)
The age old question – should designers know how to code? Or more specifically, how much should designer know when it comes to code? Considering it's the medium that we're designing for, it's still su...
Are accessibility guidelines enough to be inclusive? (00:25:28)
Making your design system as inclusive as possible is something that I think we all agree on. However, for most systems teams, this means creating some accessibility guidelines and then ticking it off...
Are design systems a dead end? (00:31:22)
Inspired by Luke's article on the death of design systems, Michelle and Luke dive into whether design systems have a future... are we at a natural point of evolution or are design systems going to go ...
How big is too big for a design system? (00:27:26)
How big is too big? Is there a point where your design system just becomes unwieldy? Luke and Michelle dive into this question from a previous episode, and try and figure out how you keep your design ...
When is OK to snowflake? (00:25:44)
Detach instance is a concept that has stuck fear into the hearts of design systems folks since the beginning. However, there are definitely instances where it’s totally ok to snowflake components! How...
How much is too much documentation? (00:27:01)
Sometimes we may feel the urge to include everything in our documentation, to the point where it rivals Lord of the Rings for length and density. However, we may be doing ourselves a disservice! How m...
Where should design systems sit in your org? (00:29:41)
Design systems should sit in the design team. Design systems should sit in the designops team. Design systems should sit in their own team. There are so many different options that are presented as th...
Should we get rid of infinite scroll? (00:27:41)
Infinite scroll was designed to enhance the UX for browsing search results, but now it's often used to keep users endlessly engaged on social media. As concerns grow about its impact on mental health,...
Do design systems make teams go faster? (00:29:11)
Design systems are often hailed as the ultimate productivity boosters for devs and designers alike, but do they really deliver on that promise? We’ll explore whether design systems genuinely make team...
Why isn’t contribution the answer? (00:28:59)
Contribution often seems like the perfect solution for scaling design systems, but is it really? We'll weigh the tough realities of managing contributions and why a federated system might not suit eve...
Live from Converge 2025: When should we be using AI? (00:26:48)
Luke and Michelle come to you direct from Converge to talk about AI (again). Is there a place for AI in our design systems?
Why aren’t people contributing to the design system? (00:30:12)
If you're struggling to get contributions to your design system, you might think it’s a governance issue. But it might not be the real issue. In this episode, we'll consider why people aren't contribu...
Where can AI actually help with design systems? (00:27:18)
We're cutting through the AI hype and getting to the good stuff—practical ways AI can supercharge your design system. From streamlining workflows to generating documentation, we'll explore real-world ...
Live from Hatch: Do we need to stop making components? (00:41:08)
In this episode, we’re challenging the status quo of design systems by questioning the necessity of components. Are we too focused on building and maintaining a library of components when we should be...
Why do we need to care more about patterns? (00:26:48)
In this episode, we’re focusing on patterns, the often-overlooked pillar of your design system. Why should we focus on patterns more than components? Are your components really as reusable as you thin...
How should we version design systems? (00:26:09)
In this episode, we explore the enigma that is design system versioning. How do we make sense of versioning? How do you sync versions between code, design, and documentation? Maybe it’s easier to igno...
Has AI made everyone a designer? A spicy conversation with Pablo Stanley (00:29:49)
AI tools are transforming the landscape, making it easier than ever to create and design. Is this making everyone a designer? Will design system makers have to herd even more cats? We’ll be joined by ...
WTF happened at Config? (00:29:07)
In this episode, we’re diving into the buzzworthy announcements and new feature releases that have the design community talking. We’ll share our opinions and insights on how these changes will impact ...
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