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DEVIANT

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From the award-winning creators of Down The Hill: The Delphi Murders, comes DEVIANT, a new true crime series that dives into the dark corners of what human beings are capable of. Hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden tell good stories about bad people who do very bad things.  Some people are wired for good. Some are wired for bad. And some are wired... to be Deviant.  Follow the show wherever you listen and across socials @deviant.podcast (IG, TT, YT)

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  1. Small Towns, Killer Secrets (00:30:37)

    In small towns, fear doesn’t always hide in the shadows. Sometimes it writes letters. Sometimes it carries a shotgun. In this episode of DEVIANT, host Dan Szematowicz takes you inside two real American nightmares. In Circleville, Ohio, thousands of anonymous letters turn a quiet town inside out, exposing secrets, destroying lives and leaving behind a mystery that’s never solved. In Skidmore, Missouri, a man named Ken Rex McElroy terrorizes his neighbors for years while the law looks away. And then, one July afternoon, the town decides to take justice into its own hands. Two towns. Two reckonings. One truth: when fear becomes unbearable, silence breaks. Follow on Instagram and TikTok @deviant.podcast. SOURCES: State of Ohio v. Paul Freshour (1983); Columbus Dispatch archives; Circleville Herald archives; Unsolved Mysteries (NBC, 1993); CBS 48 Hours (2021); In Broad Daylight by Harry N. MacLean; Kansas City Star and Washington Post archives; FBI and Missouri State Highway Patrol case summaries. Copyright 2025, Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  2. The Unknown Serial Killer: Joseph Daniel Miller (00:36:15)

    (RE_AIR)) He brags about his crimes for years, but nobody takes him seriously until 1992 ,when he’s caught in the act. Now everyone is listening as police attempt to untangle the full mystery of Joseph Daniel Miller, and the private graveyard he creates outside of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. DEVIANT host Dan Szematowicz takes introduces you to the serial killer you probably don't know about.  JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  3. Big News From DEVIANT (00:13:06)

    There are major changes afoot here at DEVIANT, and the show is evolving in a big way. Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden update you on what's happening, and what you can expect from the show moving forward. Buckle up! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  4. A Very DEVIANT Halloween (00:30:34)

    (ENCORE PRESENTATION) It's Halloween, and DEVIANT is do something unusual. Hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden tell three ghost stories, all of which are based in the real. Turn on your spookie light...it's story time! 👉 Support the show + get exclusive content: www.deviantpodcast.com 👉 Follow us on TikTok & Instagram: @deviantdopodcast 🔔 Subscribe for more stories from DEVIANT Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  5. (Part 5) Homicide and Hate: The Way Out (00:31:41)

    (PART 5/5) In the final episode of the series, Andrew Iden continues his conversation with Tyler DiPeppe, a former member of Atomwaffen Division who now works to help others escape extremism. Tyler talks about leaving the movement, the work of de-radicalization, and the effort to build a life after hate. He also reflects on family, forgiveness, and what it means to live with the residue of old ideas while trying to help others move past them. This episode closes the story of Devon Arthurs, Brandon Russell, and the network of hate they helped build — and it points to what comes next: understanding the poison to find an antidote. Episodes weekly. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. 👉 Support the show + get exclusive content: www.deviantpodcast.com 👉 Follow us on TikTok & Instagram: @deviantdopodcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  6. (Part 4) Homicide and Hate: Leaving Atomwaffen Division | The Tyler DiPeppe Story (00:32:44)

    (Part 4/5) Tyler DiPeppe was once part of Atomwaffen Division, a violent neo-Nazi group born online. Now he’s ready to explain how it happened. In this conversation, host Andrew Iden speaks with Tyler about the abuse, isolation, and search for identity that left him vulnerable to radicalization. They discuss how online propaganda and community manipulation draw people in, how loneliness becomes a weapon, and what it takes to break free. This is the most personal episode yet—a conversation about responsibility, empathy, and the human cost of hate. New episodes weekly. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. 👉 Subscribe to DEVIANT for more true crime stories about murder, hate, and the American underworld. 👉 Support the show + get exclusive content: www.deviantpodcast.com 👉 Follow us on TikTok & Instagram: @deviantdopodcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  7. (Part 3) Homicide and Hate: The Plea: Devon Arthurs and the Question of Sanity (00:30:29)

    (Part 3/4) Six years after he murdered his two roommates, Devon Arthurs stands before a judge in Tampa and says he’s ready to change. But as psychiatrists describe hallucinations, self-choking episodes, and conflicting diagnoses—from schizophrenia to schizoaffective disorder—one question dominates the courtroom: Is Arthurs genuinely ill… or performing for leniency? Host Andrew Iden examines how the case twisted through years of mental-competency hearings, how experts view the psychology of radicalization, and what drives young men toward hate. Featuring analysis from Luke Baumgartner (George Washington University’s Program on Extremism), Hannah Gais (Southern Poverty Law Center), and journalist Ali Winston, this episode unpacks the intersection of ideology, identity, and illness in one of America’s most disturbing true-crime stories. 👉 Subscribe to DEVIANT for more true crime stories about murder, hate, and the American underworld. 👉 Support the show + get exclusive content: www.deviantpodcast.com 👉 Follow us on TikTok & Instagram: @deviantdopodcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  8. (Part 2) Homicide and Hate: The Devon Arthurs Murders (00:38:49)

    (Part 2/4) Two days after the Tampa double murder committed by Devon Arthurs, police in Key Largo, FL arrest Brandon Russell, a Florida National Guard member, nuclear physics student and the co-founder of the extremist Atomwaffen Division. Also, he's Devon Arthurs's only surviving roommate. What they discover in his car and apartment reveal the terrifying reach of a violent, accelerationist neo-Nazi network. In this episode, host Andrew Iden investigates how Russell built Atomwaffen from an online forum into an international terror collective, his obsession with extremism even after serving time in federal prison, and the sinister plans he and his followers carried into the 2020s, including a failed plot to take down Baltimore’s power grid. From bomb-making manuals to propaganda networks, this is the story of how hate mutates, survives, and spreads. New episodes weekly. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. 👉 Subscribe to DEVIANT for more true crime stories about murder, hate, and the American underworld. 👉 Support the show + get exclusive content: www.deviantpodcast.com 👉 Follow us on TikTok & Instagram: @deviantdopodcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  9. (Part 1) Homicide and Hate: The Devon Arthurs Murders (00:34:03)

    (Part 1/4) On a Friday afternoon in Tampa, 18-year-old Devon Arthurs walks into an apartment leasing office and says “I just killed two people.” Those two: his roommates...young men caught in the grip of online radicalization. What follows is a hostage standoff, a web of neo-Nazi ideology,and the unraveling of a case that exposes the violent underbelly of American extremism. Hosted by Andrew Iden, this episode of DEVIANT examines how ordinary lives spiral into hate, how the internet fuels extremist communities and how one murder case reveals the very real dangers lurking in plain sight. 🔎 New episodes weekly. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. 👉 Subscribe for more deep-dive true crime conversations: https://www.youtube.com/@deviant.podcast 👉 Support the show + get exclusive content: www.deviantpodcast.com 👉 Follow us on TikTok & Instagram: @deviantdopodcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  10. Punished For Future Crimes? | Dr. Samantha Stein on DEVIANT (00:42:31)

    Being punished for crimes you haven’t committed yet sounds like Minority Report. But in 15 states—including California—it’s the law. Under the Sexually Violent Predator Act (SVP), offenders who’ve already served their time can be held indefinitely if experts believe they’re likely to reoffend. In this episode of DEVIANT: Off Script, host Dan Szematowicz sits down with Dr. Samantha Stein, forensic psychologist and author of Evil at Our Table: Inside the Minds of the Monsters Who Live Among Us. Dr. Stein is one of the few evaluators trusted to decide whether violent sexual offenders should be involuntarily hospitalized after release. We dive into: How the SVP program actually works—and why it’s so controversial. The cases of “Joe” and “Luke Miller,” two offenders whose outcomes highlight the tension between public safety and civil liberties. The emotional toll of sitting across from serial predators—and why treating them can sometimes feel like prevention work. The broader questions society faces when deciding how to deal with people who’ve committed unthinkable crimes. It’s a rare, unflinching look inside a system that blurs the line between justice and prediction. Samantha Stein’s book, Evil at Our Table, is available wherever books are sold, including here: https://a.co/d/c7huoJB 👉 Subscribe for more deep-dive true crime conversations: https://www.youtube.com/@deviant.podcast 👉 Support the show + get exclusive content: www.deviantpodcast.com 👉 Follow us on TikTok & Instagram: @deviantdopodcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  11. ENCORE: Jay Dobyns, Deep Undercover with the ATF (00:39:52)

    Former ATF agent Jay Dobyns spent 27 years undercover, from Waco and Columbine to infiltrating the Hell’s Angels in Operation Black Biscuit. In this Off Script conversation, he tells hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden what it takes to live inside America’s most violent worlds—and survive. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  12. REVISITED: A Killer in Cleveland (00:31:12)

    Anthony Sowell terrorized Cleveland’s Mount Pleasant neighborhood in the late 2000s. A convicted rapist and registered sex offender, he went unnoticed for years—even as neighbors complained about a foul stench they thought came from the sausage factory next door. By the time police finally acted, 11 women were gone. Hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden take you inside Sowell’s house of horrors. From the overlooked red flags to the night a woman leapt from his attic window, this is the story of how one man preyed on a neglected community—and how authorities failed to stop him. This case isn’t just about a serial killer. It’s about ignored warnings, systemic failure, and the lives of Black women who deserved better. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  13. Policing, PTSD and the Price of Service (00:46:42)

    Former cop, detective and firearms instructor Glen Williams sits down with host Andrew Iden to talk about what the job really does to people—and how to survive it. This is a candid conversation about trauma (on the street, at home, and inside the chain of command), the cases that stick with you, and why talking about it might be the only way through. If you work in law enforcement, EMS, fire, dispatch—or you cover crime—you’ll feel this one. GET GLEN'S BOOK: https://a.co/d/3cL2kgw IN THIS EPISODE: How a beat cop becomes a detective—and what actually makes a good one “Leadership trauma” vs. “relationship trauma” vs. “experiential trauma” Nightmares, gallows humor, overworking, and the slow creep of PTSD What departments get right (and wrong) about “officer wellness” Why community rapport solves cases The most realistic cop shows (yes, NYPD Blue gets love) ABOUT THE GUEST: Glen Williams is a retired law enforcement officer (patrol, detectives, firearms/SWAT instructor). He wrote Bridging the Gap about mental health in policing and appears in the documentary Is There Something Going On at Home? Find the book on major retailers. JOIN THE CONVERSATION: If you’re LEO/first responder/journalist: How do you cope—and what actually helps? Drop your tools, routines, or resources below. We’ll highlight thoughtful replies. SUPPORT & RESOURCES: If you or someone you know is struggling, please reach out to a qualified professional or local peer-support resources. NEW HERE? Subscribe for long-form, straight-talk conversations about crime, policing, and the people inside the system. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  14. Summer School: The Life of a Private Investigator (00:44:19)

    Ever wonder what private investigators really do when the cameras aren’t rolling? Forget the Hollywood clichés—no wiretaps, no lockpicks, no magic gadgets. In this episode, host Andrew Iden and veteran PI Ken Childs pulls back the curtain on the realities of surveillance, insurance fraud cases, missing persons, and the risks of being spotted in the field. From tense stakeouts in Beverly Hills to dangerous encounters in bad neighborhoods, Childs shares 27 years of experience tracking cheaters, scammers, and fraudsters across Los Angeles. He also reveals how new technology—Ring cams, social media, and open-source intelligence—has completely changed the game for private investigators. Whether you’re fascinated by true crime, curious about the PI world, or just want to know how close TV shows come to the truth, this episode will keep you hooked. 👉 What do you think—are private investigators properly understood? Do they deserve more credit for the risks they take? Drop your thoughts in the comments. GET KEN'S BOOK ON BEING A PI: https://a.co/d/idYQqlI JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  15. From Mob Cases to HRT: Inside the FBI with James A. Gagliano (00:54:20)

    Co-host Andrew Iden sits down with James A. Gagliano — West Point grad, former FBI Hostage Rescue Team operator, undercover agent, and two-term mayor — for a no-BS debrief on what the job really takes and how the mission shifted after 9/11. If you care about organized crime, counterterrorism, and the reality of modern policing, this one delivers. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  16. The Now and the New (00:26:59)

    Join Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden as they discuss recent updates in the cases they've been following, including the Devil's Den murders in Arkansas. The hosts share their thoughts on various policing strategies, polygraph use and extremism. Listen for insightful commentary and updates on ongoing investigations, and find out what's coming next on all things DEVIANT. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  17. Off Script: Scammers and Red Flags (00:55:44)

    You've been conned, and now you're getting revenge. That's the story of Johnathan Walton, our guest on DEVIANT Off Script. In this episode, Johnathan shares his harrowing experience of being swindled out of nearly $100,000 by a professional con artist who pretended to be his best friend. After years of investigation, he's now dedicated to exposing these scammers and protecting others. He's the author of 'Anatomy of a Con Artist' and shares the vital red flags you need to watch out for so you don't end up a victim. Listen for valuable lessons, and Johnathan's incredible journey to justice. GET JOHNATHAN'S BOOK HERE: https://johnathanwalton.com/ JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast READ THE HAPPINESS EXPERIMENT: ⁠⁠https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o2?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael⁠⁠ Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  18. The Devil in The Den (00:30:43)

    On a summer afternoon hike in Arkansas' Devil's Den State Park, tragedy strikes a family when Clinton and Cristin Brink are attacked in front of their children. The children survive. Their parents don't. The assailant: a mysterious man dressed in black. This episode of 'Deviant' brings you the details of the crime, the immediate police response and the intense manhunt that ensues. Host Dan Szematowicz explores the discovery and arrest of suspect Andrew James McGann, his alleged confession, and the evidence police say links him to the murders. As the investigation unfolds, we dig into the suspect's background, the seemingly random nature of the attack, and consider unsettling possibilities about his past. Join us as we chase the truth into the dark corners of what humans are capable of, and keep you updated on this heartbreaking case. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast READ THE HAPPINESS EXPERIMENT: ⁠⁠https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o2?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael⁠⁠ Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  19. A Reckoning: Clark Fredericks Confronts Abuse (00:41:03)

    LISTENER DISCRETION ADVISED In this episode of Deviant Off Script, host Andrew Iden engages in a deep and intense conversation with Clark Fredericks, author of 'Scarred.' Fredericks recounts his harrowing journey of surviving childhood sexual abuse, and the impactful decision to confront and ultimately kill his abuser. He delves into the psychological and emotional turmoil that ensued, his struggles with substance abuse, and his path through the legal system. Fredericks also discusses his process of healing and transformation into a motivational speaker and advocate, aiming to help others overcome their trauma. This episode provides a raw and honest examination of the complexities of confronting one's past, and seeking justice on one's own terms. GET CLARK'S INCREDIBLE BOOK: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Scarred/Clark-Fredericks/9781668018651 JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast READ THE HAPPINESS EXPERIMENT: ⁠⁠https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o2?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael⁠⁠ Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  20. Summer School: Mindhunting (00:37:40)

    In this episode of Deviant Summer School, host Andrew Iden sits down with Michael Yoder, a former agent in the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit (BAU), here to explain how criminal profiling actually works. From dispelling Hollywood misconceptions to discussing the intricate process of developing profiles, Yoder provides an in-depth look into how the BAU operates in reality. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  21. Detecting Lies with Brad Beeler (00:58:07)

    We're diving dive deep into the world of polygraphs, interrogations, and lie detection with Brad Beeler, a former Secret Service agent with 25 years of experience. Brad shares insights from his illustrious career in protective services and polygraph examination, including the science behind polygraphs, how investigators use them to detect truth and practical strategies from his new book, 'Tell Me Everything.' Learn how to read body language, decode social cues, and understand the emotional impact of working with criminals. Whether you're negotiating at a car dealership or navigating personal relationships, Brad's expertise will make you more adept at spotting deception and communicating effectively. GET BRAD'S BOOK HERE: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tell-Me-Everything/Brad-Beeler/9781637748428 JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast READ THE HAPPINESS EXPERIMENT: ⁠https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o2?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael⁠ Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  22. Summer School: Finding Missing Children (00:40:09)

    Have you ever wondered how police handle a missing child case? In this episode of Deviant Summer School, retired detective Jeff Bell, who worked for the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, shares his experiences and insights. He discusses his involvement in the high-profile Carlie Brucia case, the investigative process behind missing child cases and the emotional challenges faced by detectives. Jeff also provides an in-depth look at the role of family dynamics, the coordination required among agencies, and the use of Amber Alerts and technology in solving these cases. Join us for an authentic inside look at what goes on behind the scenes in missing child investigations. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  23. Catching Spies (00:47:53)

    (AUDIO ONLY) How do you catch a spy if you're an FBI counterintelligence agent? In this episode of Deviant Off Script, we dive into the 80-year cat-and-mouse game of espionage. Host Dan Szematowicz interviews LaRae Quy, a former FBI agent who spent almost 25 years protecting the U.S. from Russian and Chinese spies. LaRae shares stories from her career, discusses the evolution of counterintelligence through the fall of the Soviet Union and post-9/11 era, and provides insights into mental toughness and resilience. It's a conversation about espionage, intelligence work, and the complexities of national security. CONNECT WITH LARAE HERE: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larae-quy-63b44512/ TAKE THE MENTAL TOUGHNESS ASSESSMENT: https://laraequy.com/ JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  24. Summer School: Solving Homicides, Part 2 (00:32:07)

    (PART 2/2) In Part 2 of our DEVIANT Summer School class on homicide investigations, retired Chicago Police homicide Detective Mike Hammond takes us through the intricate process of catching killers. From establishing motive and gathering evidence to working with prosecutors and navigating the complexities of cold cases, Mike shares his extensive experience and insights. He discusses the challenges of dealing with victims' families, the importance of physical evidence, and the crucial role of DNA in solving old cases. Learn about the realities and nuances of homicide investigations, and hear stories from Mike, who has solved hundreds of homicide cases. MIKE'S SHOW AND INFO: https://www.detectivestory.net/ JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  25. Corrections Officer to True Crime (00:39:50)

    In this episode, host Andrew Iden talks with Jacob Moon, a US Army veteran and former corrections officer who has transitioned into a true crime writer. Jacob shares his journey from serving in the military to accidentally finding a career in corrections, the challenges and dangers of working behind bars, and the importance of respect and restraint in dealing with inmates. He also discusses how his structured and disciplined background influenced his writing career and his latest book, 'Letter 26', which explores the mind of a serial killer. GET JACOB'S BOOKS: https://writerjake.com JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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