Directionally Correct, A People Analytics Podcast
Business og økonomiVitenskapDirectionally Correct is the #1 people analytics podcast in the world. Hosted by Cole Napper, the podcast dives into people analytics, workforce planning, and talent intelligence, helping leaders navigate the future of work with insight and a dash of fun. To find out more, check out colenapper.com
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- #139 - Cole Napper - Book Release Episode: "People Analytics" Available Aug 26th! (01:02:28)
Check out this episode of the #1 people analytics podcast with special guest & host, Cole Napper, Author of People Analytics: Using Data-Driven HR and Gen AI as an Asset, go check it out! Scott interviews Cole for a slightly different feel. Let us know what you think. Buy the book here: https://a.co/d/1W37wD2 Welcome to the latest episode of Directionally Correct, a people analytics podcast hosted by Cole and Scott. In this episode, Cole dives deep into a range of engaging topics with a spotlight on generative AI and its impact on people analytics. Join us as we discuss Cole Napper's comprehensive new book, "People Analytics Using Data-Driven HR and Generative AI as a Business Asset," which is designed to be a valuable resource for both current and future challenges in the field. Cole shares insightful sections of his book, including the importance of adding business value with people analytics and the role of generative AI in transforming how organizations operate. He also highlights the ethical considerations that come with the implementation of AI, emphasizing the need for maintaining integrity. Amidst these discussions, Cole and Scott have an open conversation about personal experiences with anxiety, the process of writing a book, and the shifting landscape of work in the age of AI. They reflect on how technology is changing their professional lives, raising questions about the balance between remaining authentic and adapting to new expectations. This engaging and thought-provoking episode promises listeners a deeper understanding of the current state and future trajectory of people analytics, intertwined with real and relatable human experiences. Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect
- #138 - Ross Sparkman - Strategic Workforce Planning, Star Teams, & The Nike Story (01:06:37)
Check out Cole’s new website colenapper.com! Join Cole and Scott on this episode of Directionally Correct as they dive into the world of workforce planning with their guest, Ross Sparkman, Head of Workforce Planning at Nutrien and Author of Strategic Workforce Planning. Discover how the military's logistical prowess served as a foundational experience for Ross in mapping out effective workforce strategies. Listen in as Ross shares insights from his time at prestigious companies like Nike and Walmart, and how those experiences shaped his views on strategic workforce planning. The discussion navigates through the integration of AI in workforce strategies and how Nutrien is at the forefront of this transformation. Tune in as they explore the evolution of workforce planning, the lessons learned from past corporate experiences, and the role of AI in reshaping the future of work. If you’re intrigued by the intersections of technology and workforce strategy, you won’t want to miss this episode!
- #137 - Dr. Gina Thoebes - Organizational Performance @ The Arizona Cardinals (01:01:21)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Check out Cole’s new website colenapper.com! This engaging episode of the people analytics podcast "Directionally Correct" features Cole and special guest Dr. Gina Thoebes, VP of Organizational Performance at the Arizona Cardinals NFL football team. Gina shares insightful strategies on leadership development within high-stakes environments, drawing from her extensive experience in the NFL and her previous roles at the Cleveland Clinic and Macy's. She highlights the importance of self-awareness, capabilities, and versatility in leaders and how sports and business office leaders share this focus on continuous improvement. The conversation uncovers the role of science and data in leadership coaching, emphasizing staying grounded in evidence-based practices and mindful approaches. Gina also explains her unique position within the Cardinals as a pioneering VP role and the significant demand for effective leadership development programs. They delve into the role of people analytics in modern HR, exploring the potential shift towards generative AI and its transformation in HR functions. Besides professional insights, the episode offers personal anecdotes and humorous accounts from Gina’s diverse career journey, making for an informative yet entertaining discussion. This episode is a comprehensive mix of leadership lessons, practical applications, and forward-thinking strategies for professionals eager to advance in analytics and organizational performance roles. You can find Gina's website: stellapolarisexecdev.com here
- #136 - Kristin Cullen-Lester and Greg Pryor - The Social Capital Imperative & Network Analysis (01:03:47)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Check out Cole’s new website colenapper.com! Welcome to 'Directionally Correct' with Cole and Scott, a podcast dedicated to educating and entertaining listeners on the nuances of people analytics. In this enlightening episode, they are joined by renowned guests Kristin Cullen-Lester and Greg Pryor, editors of the influential book, 'The Social Capital Imperative.' Delve into the fascinating world of social network analysis and organizational network analysis as the guests share insightful distinctions between social and human capital. Listen as they explore the critical role social capital plays in organizational success, drawing from real-world examples and case studies presented in their extensive book. Discover how a focus on networks can aid organizational strategy, enhance team dynamics, and unlock hidden potential within your professional connections. Whether you are an academic, a practitioner, or simply curious about the pulse of organizations, this episode offers rich perspectives and invaluable knowledge. Don't miss the discussion on how social capital strategies can determine the success of tasks like managing a merger or fostering innovation within an organization.
- #135 - Craig Starbuck - HR Tech Voices Episode with OrgAcuity (00:41:02)
Craig Starbuck, the Founder and CEO of OrgAcuity, joins the Directionally Correct podcast for our latest HR Tech Voices episode of 2025. If you like what you hear in this episode, check out OrgAcuity here: https://www.orgacuity.com/ Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Join us on this episode of Directionally Correct, hosted by Cole and Scott, where we sit down with Craig Starbuck, the insightful co-founder and CEO of OrgAcuity. Craig shares his journey from engineering to people analytics, emphasizing the power of employee voice and the formation of OrgAcuity to revolutionize employee listening and people analytics. Discover the nuances of workplace dynamics, leader effectiveness, and how predictive data can drive organizational success. We explore the innovative use of AI and network analytics to enhance decision-making and foster actionable insights. From discussing the barriers of traditional feedback to unveiling the role of social capital, this conversation provides a comprehensive look at how OrgAcuity is reshaping the HR landscape and making sophisticated analytics accessible to all organizations.
- #134 - Scott Reida - Rule of 72, Michael Jordan, & Talent Hubs (01:01:56)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Check out Cole’s new website colenapper.com! Welcome to an engaging episode of Directionally Correct, a podcast dedicated to people analytics. Join our host as he sits down with the insightful Scott Reida from Amazon Web Services to delve into a myriad of topics transforming the workforce landscape. This episode kicks off with a humorous anecdote about feline interruptions before diving into the crux of the conversation - the Rule of 72 and its implications for workforce skill obsolescence. Scott explains this rule's origin in finance and fascinatingly applies it to people analytics, offering insights into how job roles evolve over time with skill replacement becoming a necessity. The discussion meanders through intriguing topics, including the use of machine learning models like GPTs in predicting talent hub success, drawing parallels to traditional linked data sharing in the people analytics space, and innovative ways to stay ahead in the field. The conversation explores the intriguing intersection of AI advancements, productivity, and salary structures, touching upon the theory of how AI might lead to job equality in pay scales. Tune in for a vibrant chat that not only educates but also enlivens the understanding of contemporary challenges and innovations in people analytics.
- #133 - Yuyan Sun - What's Really Going On In People Analytics & Why LinkedIn Sucks (01:03:19)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this engaging episode of Directionally Correct, host Cole sits down with Yuyan Sun, the head of people analytics and systems at Motive. Yuyan shares her fascinating journey from growing up in a small village in China, where she didn't attend school until third grade, to becoming a leader in the field of people analytics. The conversation delves into her unique upbringing, the cultural adjustments she faced after moving to America, and how her early life experiences shaped her natural observant nature and analytical skills. The episode also explores the evolving landscape of people analytics, the challenges of building credibility in the field, and the transformative impact of AI on this domain. Throughout the discussion, Yuyan and Cole reflect on the importance of storytelling and understanding human behavior in creating meaningful insights within organizations. Join us for an inspiring story of overcoming obstacles, embracing cultural differences, and championing diversity in the workplace. Evolution of People Analytics in the Last 10 Year - Yuyan & Cole LLMs are already more persuasive than humans - Mollick Who are Fortune 50 CHROs? What employees add the most value?
- #132 - Ingen Fitzhugh - Does Executive Development Really Work? (01:08:01)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this engaging episode of Directionally Correct, hosted by Cole & Scott, we dive into the world of executive development and coaching with guest Ingen Fitzhugh, Head of Executive Development and Coaching at AWS. Ingen shares her unique insights into the evolution of leadership development, drawing on her extensive experience to discuss the challenges and strategies involved in nurturing leadership at all organizational levels. We venture beyond the corporate lens, as Ingen recounts amusing personal anecdotes about the intelligence of crows and her experiences growing up in the San Juan Islands. This episode takes listeners on a journey through the dynamics of leadership, the role of coaching, and the ever-important human connection in remote work settings. Join us for this episode, which balances humor, personal stories, and professional insights, offering listeners valuable perspectives on how to enhance their leadership skills and navigate the modern workplace. Myth of the Hawthorne Effect How Much Do We Trust Remote Managers? Gen AI and Shifting Work Patterns
- #131 - Angela Le Mathon - AI-Native HR Operating Model & AI Agents for Skills/Tasks (01:01:34)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this episode of Directionally Correct, host Cole engages with Angela Le Mathon, the fractional Chief AI Officer and former VP of People Data and Analytics at GSK. They discuss the evolving role of AI in people analytics, the complexities of managing diverse teams, and the importance of storytelling in data interpretation. Angela shares her experiences with deploying AI solutions in HR, discusses cultural influences on her approach to leadership, and explores the challenges of translating complex data into actionable strategies for CHROs. The conversation also touches on personal anecdotes, including Angela's Francophone upbringing and her journey across different countries, shaping her unique perspective in the analytics space. Attraction Selection Attrition doesn't work right? Wrong. Meta-analysis of faking on personality tests No one has cracked AI for analytics
- #130 - Kris Saling - The US Army & Data Driven Talent Management (01:00:56)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this episode of Directionally Correct, join Cole as he engages in a lively conversation with Kris Saling, the Director of Talent Innovation at the U.S. Army. Kris shares her fascinating journey from starting a food blog at the Pentagon to leading talent innovation efforts in the military. Discover how she integrates her love for data and analytics into effective talent management strategies. Learn about Kris's accidental yet impactful career path in the Armed Forces, her insights on fostering creativity and innovation within a structured environment, and the challenges of implementing people analytics in the U.S. Army. Kris also dives into her book "Data Driven Talent Management," offering listeners a practical guide to establishing people analytics programs. Whether you're interested in military careers, data analytics, or talent management, this episode provides valuable insights into how innovative thinking can transform traditional systems. Tune in and gain a whole new perspective on the intersection of data, talent, and military service. Scott Reida - Evaluating talent hubs using AI Social contract with layoffs and offshoring Are our list of biases holding us back?
- #129 - Drs. Mark Huselid & Alec Levenson - Workforce Analytics: A Global Perspective (00:56:27)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Welcome to another episode of Directionally Correct, a People Analytics podcast hosted by Cole. Today, we are joined by distinguished guests Mark Huselid, a renowned Professor of Workforce Analytics at Northeastern University, and Alec Levenson, a Director at the Center for Effective Organizations at the University of Southern California. This episode delves into the intricate world of workforce analytics with a focus on global perspectives, as our guests discuss their new book, "Workforce Analytics, A Global Perspective," co-authored with Martin Edwards and Dana Minbaeva. Dive into the conversation about how analytics has evolved beyond a North American-centric approach, addressing global challenges in measurement, legal standards, and cultural intricacies in talent management. Our experts discuss the interdisciplinary nature of workforce analytics, drawing parallels with fields like economics, psychology, and even insights from Charlie Munger of Berkshire Hathaway. This episode also highlights the importance of variance in analytics and how global collaboration from diverse professional backgrounds contributes to the richness of the book. Hear firsthand experiences from Mark and Alec about the challenges of integrating analytics into organizational strategy, and the journey of writing a book amidst a global pandemic. Perfect for listeners keen on understanding the future of people analytics and those looking to advance their knowledge on managing talent in a globally integrated manner. Be sure to subscribe to our Substack newsletter, watch our YouTube videos, and consider supporting us as a patron. All opinions are our own. Why do scientists disagree even when they have the same data and methods Alec’s previous book: Strategic Analytics (check out the big font version) Mark’s previous books: The HR Scorecard, The Workforce Scorecard, and The Differentiated Workforce
- #128 - Chris Butler - HR Tech Voices Episode with One Model (00:40:21)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this episode, we discuss One Models’ new AI Agents product release that is shared exclusively on Directionally Correct! To book a demo with One Model to see their new AI Agents release, scan this QR code or go here to see their Directionally Correct webpage! _________________ Welcome to another episode of Directionally Correct, a podcast dedicated to exploring the fascinating world of people analytics. Hosted by Cole and Scott, this episode features Chris Butler, the founder and CEO of One Model, as part of the HR Tech Voices series. Join us as we delve into the future of people analytics with Chris, who shares innovative insights into AI agents and their transformative impact on HR technology. In this episode, Chris discusses his journey from sailing boats in Australia to pioneering HR analytics. He highlights the evolution and challenges faced in people data systems, explaining how One Model aims to revolutionize this space. Chris provides a unique perspective on leveraging AI for enhanced productivity in HR functions and presents a vision of a future where AI integrates seamlessly into enterprise systems, offering tools that automate complex processes. Listen as Chris elaborates on One Model's sophisticated AI strategy, emphasizing the role of enterprise AI in reshaping how organizations interact with data. The conversation extends to potential implications for HR teams and the importance of security and governance in this evolving landscape. Whether you're in the HR tech field or simply curious about cutting-edge analytics, this episode is packed with valuable insights and forward-thinking discussions. For those interested in seeing these AI capabilities in action, Chris invites listeners to explore their designated demo page for a deeper dive into One Model's offerings. Tune in for a riveting discussion and glimpse into the future of people analytics with Chris Butler, only on Directionally Correct.
- #127 - Dr. Stephanie Murphy - SIOP People Analytics LEC 2025 & SPA (00:51:53)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Welcome to Directionally Correct, the people's podcast with Cole and Scott. In this insightful episode, Cole is joined by Stephanie Murphy, VP of People Experience at UnitedHealth Group and a distinguished two-time guest. Stephanie shares her intriguing journey, which spans from building gas stations to leading major organizations in people analytics. The discussion touches on the nuances of people analytics, with Stephanie offering a behind-the-scenes look at organizing the Society for People Analytics and the SIOP Leading Edge Consortium. Hear her experiences on leading through crisis, fostering community among professionals, and the importance of having effective listening channels in place within large organizations. As a listener-supported podcast, Directionally Correct aims to educate and entertain professionals navigating the people analytics landscape. Remember to subscribe, watch, or listen via your preferred platform and consider supporting the podcast through their patron link shared in the show notes. Join Cole, Scott, and Stephanie as they explore captivating stories and insights in the ever-evolving world of people analytics. REGISTER for the SIOP People Analytics LEC in Atlanta on Oct 23-24th HERE Networks of job searchers - high vs. low status Relationship between internet addiction and psychotic-like experiences Does people analytics team size matter?
- #126 - Deborah Weiss - TALREOS, WORRC, and Human Capital Reporting Standards (00:52:01)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this episode of Directionally Correct, host Cole is joined by Deborah Weiss, the Director of the Workforce Science Project at Northwestern University School of Law. Together, they explore the intricate world of people analytics, focusing on the Workforce Reporting Consortium (WoRC). Debra shares her journey from law and tax to becoming a leading voice in people analytics, highlighting the importance of creating standardized human capital measures. The discussion delves into the challenges and breakthroughs in setting standards for workforce metrics, including the pivotal role of tech companies and the generational shift in HR leadership. Learn about the foundational principles of the WoRC, the impact of standardized measures on businesses and investors, and how these initiatives aim to provide more transparent and actionable insights into workforce data. Whether you're a seasoned HR professional or new to people analytics, this episode offers valuable insights into the future of workforce reporting and the potential to influence significant change in how companies understand their human capital. An analysis of 10K PhD students finds… Does counting things change what counts Our ability to process information is falling
- #125 - Dr. John Boudreau & Pete Ramstad - Why Beyond HR is More Relevant Than Ever (01:02:12)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Welcome to Directionally Correct, a people analytics podcast hosted by Cole and Scott. In this episode, we have two extraordinary guests: John Boudreau, a Senior Research Scientist at the Center for Effective Organizations at USC, and Pete Ramstad, a former CHRO and Strategy and Organizational Consultant. Dive into a thought-provoking conversation about the dynamics of people analytics and talent evaluation, exemplified by their renowned book, Beyond HR. Join us as John and Pete discuss the evolution of HR practices and their impact on measuring executive performance. From recounting the inception of their collaboration to delving into the nuances of utility analysis, this episode offers insights on leveraging various disciplines to refine HR strategy. Listen in for perspectives on how Gen AI could further transform talent assessment in organizations. Aside from analytics, explore topics like the contextual relevance of work from home policies, as well as methodologies for estimating employee value. John and Pete seamlessly integrate finance, psychology, and economics, demonstrating the power of interdisciplinary approaches. Tune in for an engaging dialogue that challenges conventional HR norms and shines a light on the potential pathways for future enterprise strategies. Surprising combinations of researchers from distant disciplines Five reasons leaders never say "directionally correct" How many people does a company actually need
- #124 - James Birchler - The Science of Executive Coaching (00:58:21)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this episode of Directionally Correct, hosted by Cole and Scott, listeners are introduced to James Birchler, an Executive Leadership Coach and Startup Technical Advisor. The conversation is filled with engaging insights as James shares his unique journey from culinary arts to executive coaching. The episode dives into the nuances of coaching technical teams, the essence of the CAMS coaching framework, and the importance of human connection and intimacy in leadership. James discusses his experiences with innovation, particularly within large and small companies, and how these environments foster creativity and continuous learning. Listeners are also treated to James’ culinary passion, providing light-hearted moments in the dialogue. Whether you’re interested in enhancing your leadership skills, understanding people analytics, or exploring the synergies between cooking and coaching, this episode offers enlightening and entertaining content. Have humans passed peak brain power Being the recipient of venting at work Workplace coaching: Does it work meta analysis Stop "Coaching" Your Tech Team (And What to Do Instead): How to level up your engineering leadership with CAMS: Coaching, Advising, Mentoring, and Supporting. Self-Awareness: The Foundation of Your Leadership OS. The Missing Manual for founders about how self-awareness powers leadership at scale. Get Out of the Building: Essential Lessons from IMVU and Amazon on Starting with the Customer. James' guest post on Ethan Evans' Level Up Substack. JamesBirchler.com - James' website with more information on his coaching and technical advisory practice. Also, here is a draft summary in case we can include one: James Birchler, veteran tech leader and executive coach, joins the Directionally Correct podcast to unpack "The Science of Executive Coaching." In this episode, we explore his groundbreaking CAMS framework that revolutionizes how leaders support their teams, dive into why Lean Startup methodologies create more effective products and teams, investigate the fascinating research on cognitive abilities in our digital age, and debate whether AI can truly replicate the magic of human coaching relationships. James shares compelling stories from his extensive career leading technical teams, offers practical wisdom on building self-awareness as your leadership foundation, and reveals counterintuitive insights about workplace communication that foster trust. You'll want to check out this episode of the #1 people analytics podcast for transformative leadership strategies from one of tech's most insightful minds!
- #123 - Shonna Waters & Tara Behrend - LIVE from SIOP 2025 (00:52:49)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this engaging episode of Directionally Correct, tune in as Cole & Scott host an insightful discussion with esteemed guests Tara Behrend and Shonna Waters at the SIOP Conference. The episode delves into the evolving landscape of I/O psychology, focusing on the scientist-practitioner-partner triad model, the integration of AI in HR, and the role of people analytics in shaping the future of the field. Join the conversation as Tara and Shonna share their experiences as female leaders in the SIOP organization and their vision for fostering a culture that embraces innovation and diversity. Discover the significance of staying connected with the latest trends, the importance of practical collaboration, and the ethical considerations of incorporating new technologies in the workplace. Whether you're a seasoned I/O psychologist or a budding practitioner, this episode offers valuable perspectives on navigating the complexities of today's dynamic work environment. Longitudinal meta analysis of range restriction in GMA SIOP White Paper: How to survive the AI revolution
- #122 - Nelson Spencer - Building AI Agents & The Original Moneyball (00:55:10)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Welcome to another engaging episode of Directionally Correct, where hosts Cole and Scott delve into the fascinating world of people analytics with Nelson Spencer, founder and CEO of efora.io. Nelson shares his insights on how AI is reshaping the landscape of HR, transforming everything from skill development to workplace dynamics. In this episode, Nelson discusses the importance of having a strategic approach to integrating AI in HR processes, emphasizing the potential benefits and challenges. He introduces the concept of skill stacking as a powerful method for personal and professional growth, encouraging a mindset shift to adapt to the ever-evolving technological advancements. The conversation also touches upon the societal and professional impacts of AI, including the need to reassess how organizations hire and evaluate talent. Nelson's unique background in sports analytics and his experiences with major league teams offer listeners a rare perspective on innovative thinking and the importance of frameworks in decision making. Join us as we explore these exciting themes with Nelson, offering both a glimpse into the future of work and practical advice for navigating this transformative era. Whether you're in HR, a people analytics enthusiast, or just curious about the future of AI, this episode provides valuable insights and thought-provoking discussions. Criterion related validity of prehire work experience Psychology of aesthetics creativity and art Marc Effron - Delusions of employee development
- #121 - Jenny Dearborn - How to be an Insight-Driven CHRO (00:53:06)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Join Cole in a riveting episode of Directionally Correct, where he sits down with Jenny Dearborn, the Chief People Strategy Officer at BTS and renowned author of The Insight Driven Leader. Explore the fascinating transition from a beekeeping enthusiast to a leading mind in HR analytics. In this episode, Jenny shares her unique journey from being a high school drama teacher to rising through the ranks in sales and becoming a leading CHRO with a strong analytics background. Dive into the nuances of HR's role in the business world, as Jenny discusses her latest book and the importance of insight-driven leadership. She emphasizes the need for HR to align closely with CEOs and business goals by using data to predict and measure leadership performance. Hear her thoughts on the disconnect between CHROs and CEOs, the impact of AI in employment decisions, and the evolving dynamics of HR technology. With an exploration of HR best practices and engaging anecdotes, this episode offers listeners a wealth of knowledge on how to leverage data for effective people management. Whether you're an HR professional or simply interested in leadership and analytics, this episode promises insights on elevating organizational performance and developing a strong learning culture. How training impacts a company's bottom line Effron - HR vs HR DOL publishes best practices for using AI for employment decisions Lilly (Movie Release) The Insight Driven Leader (pre-order now)
- #120 - Dr. Steve Hunt - Talent Tectonics, Quality of Hire, & Grunge Music (01:19:37)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this engaging episode of Directionally Correct, join host Cole as he dives into a robust conversation with Steve Hunt, the founder of i3 Talent and author of Talent Tectonics. Steve shares his unique journey from the grunge scene in Seattle to becoming a significant voice in the HR and people analytics landscape. Steve discusses his latest book Talent Tectonics, exploring the seismic shifts in the workforce brought on by digitalization and demographic changes. The episode delves into the challenges and opportunities presented by AI, reshaping how we approach talent management in a fast-evolving workplace. Listeners will find a rich discussion on the purpose of work, the complexities of measuring employee performance, and the role of technology in creating adaptable learning environments. Steve also reflects on historical and ongoing shifts in labor markets and the importance of HR metrics in driving organizational success. This episode promises valuable insights for anyone interested in the future of work and effective people analytics strategies. Is the relationship to job performance and personality curvey? Who is the human in the loop - Amit Mohindra Measuring L&D effectiveness using Kirkpatrick or Philips
- #119 - Cole and Scott - The Paradox of Critical Thinking (01:02:36)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this episode of Directionally Correct, hosts Cole & Scott takes listeners on a journey through a variety of intriguing topics—even without a guest. Tune in to hear tales from morning commutes, including a possible sighting of Jeff Bezos. Cole also delves into the heart of people analytics, exploring the balance between technology, like AI, and maintaining critical thinking skills. Listeners will gain insights into celebrity encounters in unexpected places and the cultural landscape of where you live. You'll also hear a deep dive into the validity of training programs and the controversial issues surrounding them. The discussion includes insights into idea generation and the adoption of innovative thoughts, particularly in the context of diverse networks. Are you merely loafing through life or building something lasting with your ideas? Stay tuned as Cole addresses these questions and more, all while maintaining an engaging and entertaining approach that keeps listeners coming back for more. Cole’s book People Analytics comes out in July LLMs are only capable of recombinatory innovation We talk about validity in science but do we have a consistent definition? How GenAI influences critical thinking What LLMs do people actually use Why so many leadership trainings fall short
- #118 - Sonali Kumar - How to Break into People Analytics in 2025 (01:05:36)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this enlightening episode of "Directionally Correct," host Cole sits down with Sonali Kumar, a fresh people analyst and podcast host, to unravel her unconventional journey from studying criminal justice to becoming a beacon in the field of people analytics. Sonali shares her personal tale of career pivots driven by a quest for meaningful impact and strategic growth in the HR analytics domain. Together, they explore the shifting dynamics in people analytics, especially as AI reshapes required skill sets. Sonali offers fresh perspectives on balancing technical and non-technical skills, emphasizing the importance of communication and stakeholder engagement in today's data-driven landscape. Listeners will gain insights into Sonali's unique approach to building a personal brand, overcoming imposter syndrome, and her fervor for continuous learning. The conversation also touches on the future of the workforce and the challenges of breaking into new fields in an ever-evolving job market. Whether you're a budding data enthusiast or an established professional navigating career changes, this episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice from two leaders in the analytics space. Anthropic is giving all their employees the same job description The next great resignation is coming - Lightcast Gen AI machine learning algos are destroying human created ones
- #117 - Dr. Roxanne Laczo - Has People Analytics Lost Its Way? Bring Back Validity (01:03:34)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Join us on this episode of Directionally Correct, a People Analytics Podcast, hosted by Cole & Scott, as we dive deep into the world of people analytics with our special guest, Roxanne Laczo, Head of People Analytics at Cloudflare. In this enlightening conversation, we uncover the nuances of video meetings and the social dynamics they entail, explore the vibrant yet evolving cultural landscape of Austin, and discuss the art of jaywalking. Roxanne shares her journey to Austin, a city close to her heart but she finds increasingly overrated due to rapid modernization. We touch upon Austin's iconic spots like 6th Street and the evolving nature of the famous South by Southwest festival. Beyond Austin's metamorphosis, we dive into the essence of people analytics, discussing the intersection of theoretical foundations and technology in effectively measuring employee dynamics. Roxanne emphasizes the importance of understanding foundational psychological principles over a mere focus on technology and dashboards. She passionately conveys the need for integration of various assessments in people analytics for meaningful insights. Adding a lighter note, Roxanne humorously detours into her experiences with rodeos and her unforgettable encounter with Mike Tyson at an airport. We wrap up with insights from her teaching experience at UT Austin, where she creatively engages students with zookeeper job analyses and cognitive analysis exercises. Whether you're an analytics enthusiast or just curious about the changing pulse of Austin, this episode offers a rich blend of professional insights and personal anecdotes. Don't miss it! Scott gets petty about agreeableness via meta-analysis The thesis of politics of smell went viral and why Anthropic’s economic index of how people use AI in their jobs
- #116 - Jennifer Hanniman - HR Tech Voices Episode with PeopleInsight (01:00:30)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Welcome to the inaugural episode of HR Tech Voices on Directionally Correct, where Cole & Scott sits down with Jennifer Hanniman, Vice President of Professional Services at PeopleInsight. In this engaging episode, Jennifer delves into the essentials of people analytics, discussing how PeopleInsight aids companies between 500 and 5,000 employees in their analytics journey. She highlights the importance of moving beyond spreadsheets and the challenges smaller companies face in building analytics infrastructures from scratch. Jennifer offers insights into the consultative model of PeopleInsight, emphasizing a partnership approach that ensures clients not only receive analytic tools but also know how to leverage them effectively. The conversation explores the nuanced role of AI in analytics, touching upon data privacy and security, especially concerning GDPR compliance. Listeners will get a glimpse into Jennifer’s personal journey, including her life in the Netherlands, insights into AI's influence on organizational structures, and the need for trust and data integrity in analytics. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the evolving landscape of HR technology and people analytics. Cole got recognized as a Top 20 people analytics influencer The number of truly exceptional people per million How rumors spread through networks Reinventing the organization for GenAI and LLMs
- #115 - Dr. Sandra Loughlin - The Data, Tasks, & Skills Needed for a Skills-Based Future (01:01:20)
Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect In this exciting episode of Directionally Correct, hosts Cole and Scott welcome Dr. Sandra Loughlin, Chief Learning Scientist at EPAM Systems, to explore a range of fascinating topics. Dive into the world of people analytics and discover how it can be leveraged to maximize organizational efficiency and personal growth. Listen as Dr. Laughlin shares her insights on the human microbiome, a realm where gut health meets mental health, and the pivotal role it plays in our lives. Transitioning from academia to industry, Dr. Loughlin unveils her journey and passion for learning sciences. Hear her thoughts on the skills-based movement taking over HR landscapes, her love-hate relationship with traditional training, and how to truly measure learning success. Along the way, there are intriguing exchanges about crypto adventures, the perils of over-reliance on AI, and even the unique art of poop transplants! This episode promises a thrilling blend of expert opinions, light-hearted banter, and cutting-edge discussions that will keep you both educated and entertained. Returns to face-to-face interactions Personality disorders as predictors of counterproductive work behaviors A meta-analysis of career hurdles